Wesley's maturity in dealing with differences with Whitefield

 

 Odilon Massolar Chaves


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Odilon Massolar Chaves is a retired Methodist pastor, with a doctorate in Theology and History from the Methodist University of São Paulo.

Son of Rev. Adherico Ribeiro Chaves and Roza Massolar Chaves.

He is married to RoseMary.

He has two daughters: Liliana and Luciana.

His thesis dealt with the Methodist revival in England in the eighteenth century and its contribution as a paradigm for our days.

  

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Table of Contents

 

·       Introduction

·       Wesley's Love for George Whitefield

·       In defense of Wesley and Whitefield

·       The hand of our Lord is not shortened between us

·       God actually planted and watered

·       We are servants of all

·       Make the two of us one mind

·   They were concerned about the way their preachers often spoke of me and my brother

·       If God sends me, people will listen

·       Affectionate and very lively

·       Encouraging preachers

·       Whitefield's Safe Arrival in Carolina

·       I am a follower of peace

 

 

 

 

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Introduction

 

"Wesley's Maturity in Dealing with Differences with Whitefield" is a 28-page book based especially on Wesley's letters.

"The relationship between John Wesley and George Whitefield is one of the greatest lessons of maturity and Christian love in history. Although they were leaders of the 18th-century Revival, they disagreed diametrically: Wesley was an Arminian (advocated free will) and Whitefield was a Calvinist (advocated predestination)." [1]

There was maturity and love between Wesley and Whitefield in dealing with this theological difference.

"Agreement on the essentials: Despite the vehement doctrinal warfare, they agreed on the core of faith: justification by grace through faith and the necessity of the new birth. Wesley coined the famous motto: "In the essential points, unity; in secondary things, freedom; but in everything, love."[2] 

Wesley never spoke against Whitefield. He said, "You heard the cry, Whitefield against Wesley; but you will never hear, Wesley against Whitefield.' Since then, I have been a follower of peace."

An example of an attitude in the midst of theological divergence that serves as an inspiration for our days.

 

The Author

 

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Wesley's Love for George Whitefield

 

George Whitefield (1714-1770) was born in a liquor tavern in Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England. [3]

He was orphaned at the age of three. He always lived in poverty and struggled a lot to study.

"During his childhood, he showed interest in the performing arts and read plays tirelessly, often even skipping class to rehearse. George abandoned his studies for a time to help his mother, resuming it in 1730.[4]

His mother remarried, but Whitefield "was allowed to continue his studies at school. At his mother's boarding house, he cleaned the rooms, washed clothes and sold drinks at the bar."[5]

"He paid for his own studies at Pembroke College, Oxford, serving as a waiter in a hotel. After spending some time at Oxford, he joined the group of students to which John and Charles Wesley belonged."[6]

In 1733, Whitefield "met the Wesley brothers and joined the group of Christians of the 'Holy Club', called by many critics 'Methodists', for their systematic approach to religious questions. Like his friends at the club, Whitefield also sought salvation through strict discipline and good works. It cost him his health, and he never fully recovered. John Wesley lent Whitefield Henry Scougal's book The Life of God in the Soul of Man, which showed his need to be born again.[7]

Spiritual Father in Christ

"Honored Lord"

Whitefield spoke "with the greatest deference and respect" of the Wesley brothers, who had been to famous boarding schools and were their eldest. During a period of acute distress, Whitefield was sent for counsel to John, and thanks to his "fine counsel and management," Whitefield "was delivered from the wiles of Satan." This was a somewhat subservient relationship. Whitefield wrote, 'From time to time Mr. Wesley permitted me to go to him, and instructed me how I was able to bear him.' Whitefield deferred to John Wesley as his 'spiritual father in Christ' and his letters addressed Wesley as 'Lord Honored'.[8]

George Whitefield replaced Wesley at Savannah in 1738.

Whitefield's role in Savannah was only temporary. He had not yet been ordained as an elder in the Church of England.

He felt the desire to establish a home for orphans in Georgia. He returned to England for his ordination in 1739 and raised funds for the construction of the Bethesda Orphanage.

The orphanage was founded in 1740.[9]

The friendship between George Whitefield and John Wesley

"The friendship between George Whitefield and John Wesley was one of the most influential partnerships in Christian history in the eighteenth century. Although united by the gospel, their relationship was marked by a deep maturity in dealing with theological disagreements." [10]

Wesley called him "dear Mr. Whitefield" or "dear Brother Whitefield."

 

He even called Whitefield "son". Wesley wrote: "Many years ago, when my son (as he called himself for several years)".

 

Wesley always praised Whitefield. In a letter to James Hutton on April 2, 1739, Wesley said, "Dear Jemmy, none of my things have arrived. I want my dress and cassock every day. Oh, how God manifests Himself in our brother Whitefield! I haven't seen one like him — no, not in Herrnhut."

 

Wesley always defended Whitefield from accusations. In a letter to James Hutton, July 2, 1739, Wesley said: "Thursday, the 21st, I conversed for an hour or two with a young man from Gloucester, who was deeply prejudiced against my dear brother Whitefield and myself. He walked away from another mind."

 

Wesley loved Whitefield. In a letter written on August 22, 1744, Wesley said: "MALADY,--I love Calvin a little, plus Luther; the Moravians, Mr. Law, and Mr. Whitefield far more than either of them!"

 

The separation came because Whitefield had embraced predestination and had started to attack Wesley.

Wesley attributed this separation to the enemy. He said, "Everywhere Mr. Whitefield has been, he has labored in the same friendly, Christian manner. God has actually effectively broken down the partition wall that existed between us. Thirty years ago, we were one; then the sower of tara separates us; But now one stronger than him has made us one again."

Writing to Mrs.Turner, on September 18, 1772, Wesley said, "You heard the cry, Whitefield against Wesley; but you will never hear, Wesley against Whitefield.' Since then, I have been a follower of peace."

Reconciliation came, and they met several times.

When asked if he would see John Wesley in heaven because of their theological differences, Whitefield showed deep humility and love. He replied that he feared not, for Wesley would be so close to the throne of God that they could hardly see him from behind." [11]

Whitefield even invited on his deathbed, and Wesley accepted and held his funeral service in 1770.

Wesley's letters to Whitefield reveal respect and admiration:

 

 

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In defense of Wesley and Whitefield

 

When Dr. Lavington, Bishop of Exeter, raised calumnies against Wesley and Whitefield, Wesley wrote a letter, in December, 1751, defending both.

 

Among his arguments are:

 

If Mr. Whitefield uses it

 

'Assurance of pardon and salvation' is an expression that never leaves my lips; and if Mr. Whitefield uses it, yet he does not preach such a guarantee as the privilege of all Christians."

He did not prove a point of this accusation against the Methodists

"But you are determined to seek your victory, and so you continue: 'What are we to think of these charges against Whitefield, Wesley, and the Moravians against each other?' The Moravians, sir, are out of the question; for they are not Methodists: and for the rest, Mr. Whitefield accuses Mr. Wesley of withholding Universal Redemption, and I accuse him of maintaining Particular Redemption. That's the permanent load on each side. And now, sir, 'what shall we think?' Why, that you have not proved a point of this charge against the Methodists."

Calvinism did not prevail among the Methodists

'His object was to show that Calvinistic notions did not prevail among the Methodists, or that they were not the consequence of an unconditional justification.' No, sir, it was none of my business to show that. It was not my business to prove the negative, but rather to prove the affirmative. Mr. Whitefield is himself a Calvinist. So, no doubt, many of his followers are. But Calvinism has not prevailed among any other of the Methodists (so called), nor is it to this day the consequence of the unconditional justification of the way I preach it."

But this does not prove that we are 'detestable sectarians'

Sir, has your passion completely extinguished your reason? The ferocity and rancor left him no understanding. Otherwise, how could it be possible for you to continue at this senseless and brazen pace? These things are true that Mr. Whitefield and Wesley oppose each other. He holds the decrees; I don't: but that doesn't prove that we are 'detestable sectarians'. And whether these things are true or false, your claim of our 'fierce and spiteful disputes and mutual heinous accusations' cannot stand without better proof than you have so far adduced.

Mr. Whitefield is not a Methodist

If you say, 'But I have proved the charge against Mr. Whitefield': admit that you have proved it (which I do not allow), Mr. Whitefield is not a Methodist; -- no, nor the Societies under his care; They are not a third, perhaps not even a tenth, of the Methodists. What, then, can justify your attributing their faults, if they were proved, to the whole body? You accuse ten men. Suppose you prove the charge against one, you will condemn the other nine. No, let each bear his own burden, for each must give an account of himself to God.

 

The hand of our Lord is not shortened between us

 

 

The hand of our Lord is not shortened among us. Yesterday I preached at St. Katherine's and at Islington, where the church was about as hot as some rooms of the Society used to be. I don't think I've ever been so empowered before. The fields after the service were white, with people praising God.

 

To George Whitefield

 

LONDON, February 26, 1739.

 

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- The hand of our Lord is not shortened between us. Yesterday I preached at St. Katherine's and at Islington, where the church was about as hot as some rooms of the Society used to be. I don't think I've ever been so empowered before. The fields after the service were white, with people praising God. About three hundred persons were present at Mr. Sims's house; then I went to Mr. Bell's house, then to Fetter Lane, and at nine to Mr. Bray's, where we also just wanted space. Today I explain in the Minories at four, at Mrs. West's house at six, and to a large company of poor sinners in Gravel Lane (Bishopsgate) at eight. Mr. Crouch's Society only meets at eight; for I exmented, before I go to him, near St. James's Square, where a young woman has lately been taken by the Holy Ghost and overflows with joy and love. On Wednesday at six we have a noble company of women, not adorned with gold or costly garments, but with a meek and quiet spirit and good works. At the Savoy on Thursday evening, we usually have two or three hundred, most at least fully awake. Mr. Abbot's room is more than crowded on Friday, as is Mr. Park's room twice; where I usually had more power than anywhere else. A week or two ago, I received a note there, as I recall, with these words: 'Your prayers are desired by a sick, mad, and deeply troubled child day and night, that our Lord may heal him, as He healed those in the days of His flesh; and that He would give their fathers faith and patience until their time comes.'

On Saturday night, a well-dressed middle-aged woman in Beech Lane (where I usually talk to five or six hundred before going to Mrs. Exall's Society) was apprehended, according to several about her, with little less than the agony of death. We prayed that God, who brought her to birth, would give her strength to give birth, and that He would act quickly, so that all could see it, fear, and trust in the Lord. Five days later she had labor and moaned, being in captivity. On Thursday night, our Lord got the victory; and since then she has been full of love and joy, which she openly declared in the same [Society] last Sabbath: so that many also gave thanks to God for her sake. It is important to note that her friends considered her crazy during these three years, and so they bled, burned her, and everything else. Come, and we praise the Lord and enlarge His name together. [12]

 

God actually planted and watered

 

I believed that the enemy was close to us. We immediately cried out to our Lord to awaken His power and come to our aid. Soon Mrs. Shrieve fell into a strange agony of both body and mind; His teeth gritted; their knees hit each other; and his whole body trembled intensely.

 

To George Whitefield

LONDON, March 16, 1739.

 

We're going all over the place and confirming the infidels

 

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- On Thursday, the 8th of today, we had breakfast at Mr. Score's house, [Oxford], who waits patiently for God's salvation. From there we went to Mrs. Compton, who has put her face on like a flint, and knows she will have no shame. [See Diary, ii. 147.] After we had spent some time in prayer, Mr. Washington came with Mr. Gibs and read several passages from Bishop Patrick [Simon Patrick (1626-1707). 'A man of eminently brilliant life', says Burnet. As Dean of St. Paul's, Covent Garden, he remained in his parish to minister to the suffering during the Great Plague. In 1689, he became Bishop of Chichester and of Ely in 1691. He was one of the five founders of the S.P.C.K. He was greatly influenced by the 'Cambridge Platonists'. Extracts from his Works appear in Wesley's Christian Library (vols: xxi. and xxxii.); and 'Bishop Patrick's Picture of an Antinomian' was inserted in the Arminian Mag. 1778, pp. 402-7. There are at least five records of Wesley's use of Patrick's devotional manuals in his old Journal and Diary (see Journal Index). The Parable of the Pilgrim's Progress, published in 1665, when he was Dean of St. Paul's, was noticed by Southey, who wrote: 'Though the parable is ill-imagined and ill-sustained, there is much sound instruction imparted in a sober, manly, and not infrequently happy manner.'] Pilgrim's Parable, to prove that we were all under a delusion, and that we would be justified by faith and works. Charles Metcalf [Charles Metcalf, from London. See Diary, i. 455d, se. 143d.] He resisted him head-on and declared the simple truth of the gospel. When they were gone, we again besought our Lord that He would keep up His own cause. Upon meeting Mr. Gibs soon after, he was almost persuaded to seek salvation in the blood of Jesus alone. Meanwhile, Mr. Washington and Watson ['George Watson still did not fail to read prayers there [at the Castle]. I met him by chance, and conversed with him an hour ago, and I cannot help thinking that he is a sober man most of the time' (Clayton to Wesley, Journal, viii. 280).] We are going all over the place and confirming the infidels. At four o'clock we met them (without design) and endured them again. From five to six we were confirming the brothers. At six o'clock I explained at Mrs. Ford's house; as I planned to do at Mrs. Compton's house at seven.

 

I advised everyone who valued their souls to leave

 

But Mr. Washington got there before me, and was beginning to read Bishop Bull against the Witness of the Spirit. He told me that he was authorized by the parish minister to do so. I advised all who valued their souls to leave; and, perceiving that he was the less evil of the two, that those who remained might not be. Perverted, I entered directly into the controversy, touching both the cause and the fruits of justification. In the middle of the dispute, James Mears' wife began to feel pain. I prayed a little with her when Mr. Washington was gone; and then (having comforted the rest while I was enabled) we went to Sister Thomas's house. There was no way Mrs. Mears's pains could have increased so much that she couldn't help but shout loudly in the street. With great difficulty, we took her to Mrs. Shrieve's house (where Mr. Washington had also been before us).

 

I believed that the enemy was close to us. We immediately cried out to our Lord to awaken His power and come to our aid

 

We made our request known to God, and He heard us and sent His deliverance right away. There was great power among us, and her husband was also set free. Soon after, I felt such a wet blow to my soul (and Mrs. Compton and several others as well) that I don't remember ever encountering it before. I believed that the enemy was close to us. We immediately cried out to our Lord to awaken His power and come to our aid. Soon Mrs. Shrieve fell into a strange agony of both body and mind; His teeth gritted; their knees hit each other; and his whole body trembled intensely. We continued praying, and in less than an hour the storm ceased. Now she enjoys a sweet calm, having remission of sins and knowing that her Redeemer is alive.

 

God was pleased to strengthen and comfort them

 

On returning to Mrs. Fox's house, I found our dear brother Kin-chin coming from Dummer. We rejoiced, gave thanks, prayed, and took sweet counsel together; the result was that instead of leaving for London (as I had planned) on Friday morning, I was to leave for Dummer, there being no one to supply that church on Sunday. On Friday, then, I departed, and arrived in the evening at Reading, where I met a young man, Cennick [See letter of April 27, 1741 to Whitefield.] by name, strong in the faith of our Lord Jesus. He had started a Society there the week before; but the parish minister had almost annulled it. Several of the members spent the night with us, and God was pleased to strengthen and comfort them.

 

She has forgiveness, but not the witness of the Spirit

 

In the morning our brother Cennick rode with me, whom I thought willing to suffer, yes, to die, for his Lord. We arrived in Dummer in the afternoon. Miss Molly [Charles Kinchin's sister, who was an invalid. See Diary, i. 453d.] he was very weak in body, but strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Surely its light should not be hidden under a bushel. She has forgiveness, but not the witness of the Spirit (perhaps because of the conviction of our dear brother Hutchings, who seemed to consider them inseparable).

On Sunday morning, we had a large and attentive congregation. At night, the room in Basingstoke was full and my mouth was with open arms. We expected a lot of opposition, but we didn't find any.

 

But the enemy was very vigilant.

 

On Monday, Mrs. Cleminger feeling pain and fear, we prayed, and our Lord gave her peace. About noon we spent an hour or two in conference and prayer with Miss Helena. Molly; and then they left in a glorious storm, but even I had an inner calm. We had assigned the little Society in Reading to meet us in the evening; But the enemy was very vigilant. Almost as soon as we left the city, the minister sent or went to each of the members, and, arguing and threatening, utterly confused them, so that they were all dispersed out. Mr. Cennick's own sister did not dare to see us, but went out on purpose to avoid it. But I trust that our God will gather them together again, and that the gates of hell will not prevail against them.

 

That she never had a true faith in Christ until two o'clock in the afternoon the previous Tuesday

 

About one o'clock on Tuesday afternoon, I returned to Oxford, and from Mr. Fox's house (where all were at peace) I went to Mrs. Compton. I found that the parish minister was already there before me, to whom she had plainly stated things as they were—'that she never had a true faith in Christ until two o'clock in the afternoon of the previous Tuesday.' After other warm and sharp expressions, 'he told her, with this word, that she should repel Holy Communion.' Finding that she was not convinced of her error even by this argument, he calmly left her rejoicing in God, her Savior.

 

God actually planted and watered

 

At six o'clock in the afternoon we were at Mr. Fox's Society; about seven o'clock in Mrs. Compton's house: the power of our Lord was present in both, and all our hearts were united in love.

The next day, we had the opportunity to confirm most, if not all, of the souls that had been shaken. In the afternoon, I preached in the Castle. Then we joined in prayer, and now Charles Graves is joining us, who is rooted and rooted in faith. Then we went to Mr. Gibs's room, where Mr. Washington and Watson were. There an hour was spent in conference and prayer, but without any contestation. At four in the morning I left Oxford. God actually planted and watered. Oh, that He would give the increase! -- I am, etc. [13]

 

We are servants of all

 

They are on the same level as the rest of their siblings. But I trust you and I am not: we are servants of all. So far I have spoken with fear, a lot of trembling and many tears. Oh, that our Lord would say the rest! For what would someone like me say to a dear servant of my Lord?

 

To George Whitefield

 

LONDON, March 20, 1739.

 

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- You would like me to speak to you freely, without any softening or reservation, I know you would. And may our loving Savior speak to your heart, that my labor may not be in vain. I do not praise our brothers Seward [See title of letter of May 8.] and Cennick. But let me speak tenderly, for I am but a small child. I know that our Lord has taken away the good that they come to you; good for you, and good for them—very good: and may He increase it a thousandfold. As much as it is! But is all good, my brother, from whom does He bring good? I don't think that follows. O my brother, it is well for you or I to give the slightest hint that we have prepared our will or judgment against that of our whole Company. It was not good for you to mention a desire which they all solemnly declared to regard as unreasonable.  My brother, I do not recommend you in this. If our brother R--- or P--- wanted something, and our other brothers disapproved, I can't help thinking that he should put it aside at once. How much further you or I should go! They are on the same level as the rest of their siblings. But I trust you and I am not: we are servants of all. So far I have spoken with fear, a lot of trembling and many tears. Oh, that our Lord would say the rest! For what would someone like me say to a dear servant of my Lord? O pray that I may see myself as a worm and no man! I want to be

Your brother in Christ Jesus. [14]

 

Make the two of us one mind

 

Therefore, for a time you are tolerated to have one opinion and I the other. But when His time comes, God will do what man cannot—that is, make the two of us one mind.

 

To George Whitefield

 

LONDON, August 9, 1740.

 

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- I thank you for yours, May 24th. The case is quite simple. There are prejudiced people both for and against Predestination. God is sending a message to those on both sides. But neither of them will receive it, unless from an opinion of their own. Therefore, for a time you are tolerated to have one opinion and I the other. But when His time comes, God will do what man cannot—that is, make the two of us one mind. Then the persecution will die down, and it will be seen if we consider our lives dear to ourselves to finish our way with joy.--I am, my dear brother,

Always yours.[15]

 

They were concerned about the way their preachers often spoke of me and my brother

 

Above all, they were concerned about the way their preachers (as I call those who preach in the Tabernacle) often spoke of me and my brother, partly in the most mocking and contemptuous way, relating a hundred shocking stories

 

To George Whitefield

 

BIRSTALL, May [28], 1753.

 

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- Between forty and fifty of our preachers have recently met at Leeds, all of them, I trust, esteem you for the sake of your work. They asked me to mention some details to you, in order to have an even stronger union between us.

Several of them have been grieved to have you mention among our people (in private conversations, if not in public preaching) some of those opinions which we do not believe to be true, such as 'a man may be justified and not know it,' that 'there is no possibility of falling into disgrace,' and that 'there is no perfection in this point.' They conceived that this was not acting as it would be done, and that it tended to create not peace but confusion.

They also worry that you sometimes speak lightly of the discipline received among us, of societies, classes, bands, and our rums in general, of some of them in particular. They understood that this was neither kind nor fair, nor consistent with the profession you otherwise practice.

Above all, they were concerned about the way their preachers (as I call those who preach in the Tabernacle) often spoke of me and my brother, partly in the most mocking and contemptuous way, relating a hundred shocking stories (such as that of Mary Popplestone and Eliz. History) as unquestionable facts, and propagating them with diligence and an air of triumph wherever they appeared.

These things I was desired by all our brethren to mention. Two or three of them, afterwards, asked me to mention privately that, when you were in the North, your conversation was not so useful as had been expected; that he generally did not turn against the things of God, but on trivialities and indifferent things; that his whole carriage was not as serious as they might wish, often mingled with needless laughter; and that those who strove for any lightness of behaviour, and always strove to speak and act as if they saw God, you would rather weaken than strengthen, insinuating that you were in bondage or weak in faith.

I am convinced that you will receive these short lines in the same place where I write them. That you may prosper more and more, both in your soul and in your efforts, is the earnest desire of my dear brother, [Wesley endorsed this letter 'My letter to G. Whitd. He denies everything!']

Your affectionate co-worker.

 

If God sends me, people will listen

 

When I was first invited to Scotland (about fourteen years ago), Mr. Whitefield said to me, 'You have nothing to do there; for your principles are so well known, that if you spoke like an angel no one would listen to you. And if they did, you'd have nothing to do but argue with each other from dawn to night.'

 

For Dr. Erskine

EDINBURGH, April 24, 1765.

 

When I was first invited to Scotland (about fourteen years ago), Mr. Whitefield said to me, 'You have nothing to do there; for your principles are so well known, that if you spoke like an angel no one would listen to you. And if they did, you'd have nothing to do but argue with each other from dawn to night.'

I replied, 'If God sends me, people will listen. And I will give you no reason to object; for I shall carefully avoid controversial points and stick to the fundamental truths of Christianity. And if one still starts to contest, it may be; but I will not argue with them.'

I came: hundreds and thousands gathered to listen. But I was able to keep my word. I avoided everything that could create conflict and insisted on the most important points—religion of the heart and salvation by faith—at all times and in all places. And so I cut off every occasion of dispute from the first day until this very hour. And this you surprisingly improve until it becomes a defect, interpret it as proof of dishonesty. You also accuse me of having unhealthy principles and of saying, 'Right opinions are not (sometimes) part of religion.'

 

Affectionate and very lively

 

He is very affectionate and very cheerful, and his word seldom falls to the ground: though he does not often speak of the deep things of God or the height of the promises

 

To Peggy Dale

BRISTOL, September 29, 1767.

 

MY DEAR PEGGY,-- I hope Mr. Whitefield was a quality instrument at Newcastle [Whitefield preached at Newcastle on September 20, 1767, at Castle Garth. He says: 'I became a street and field preacher.' See Tyerman's Whitefield, ii. 532-4.] and a means of stirring up some. He is very affectionate and very cheerful, and his word seldom falls to the ground: though he does not often speak of the deep things of God, or of the height of the promises.

But you don't speak a word of Lady Maxwell! [See letter of June 4.] Did she come and go through Newcastle? Did you talk to her alone? And she

I take great satisfaction in considering how you and my dear Molly Dale are a situation that has broken your natural and habitual shyness? How did you find it? Seeking heavenly things alone, and all thirsting for God. It will be a miracle of miracles if she stands upright, considering the thousand traps that surround her. You have every outward advantage to holiness that an indulgent Providence can give. And, what is even happier, you have a firm determination to use all these advantages to the fullest. Let your gaze be fixed on the brand! To be all love! All devotees! to have a desire, a work, a happiness, a Christ reigning alone and filling you with His fullness--I am, my dear sister,

Your affectionate brother.

 

Encouraging preachers

 

For the present, I must implore you to make up for my lack of service by encouraging our preachers, as you see fit, who are still comparatively young and inexperienced, by giving them such counsel as they think fit, and, above all, by exhorting them, not only to love one another, but, if it be possible, as far as they can live in peace with all men.

 

To George Whitefield 

LEWISHAM, February 21, 1770.

 

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- Mr. Keen informed me some time ago of his safe arrival at Carolina; which, indeed, he could not doubt for a moment, notwithstanding the empty rumour of his expulsion, which was so common in London. I trust that our Lord has more work for you to do in Europe as well as in America. And who knows, but before you get back to England maybe I'll pay another visit to the New World? [See letters for February 17 and December 14.] I was strongly requested by several friends of ours in New York and Philadelphia. They invoke many motives, some of which seem to carry considerable weight. And my age is no problem at all; for I bless God that my health is not nearly as good, but abundantly better in several respects than when I was twenty-five. But there are so many reasons on the other side that, so far, I can't determine anything; so I must wait for more in-depth light. Here I am: may the Lord make me as it seems that He is good. For the present, I must implore you to make up for my lack of service by encouraging our preachers, as you see fit, who are still comparatively young and inexperienced, by giving them such counsel as they think fit, and, above all, by exhorting them, not only to love one another, but, if it be possible, as far as they can live in peace with all men.

Some time ago, since you left, I heard a circumstance that greatly worried me—namely, that the College or Academy in Georgia had swallowed up the Orphans' House. Should I give my judgment without being asked? I think friendship requires me to must. Are there not, then, two points that come into consideration—a point of mercy and a point of justice? As to the former, it cannot be asked, Can there be greater charity on earth than to raise orphans? What is a college or academy compared to this? Unless you can have a college like maybe there isn't on Earth. I know the value of learning and I run the risk of valuing it too much than too little. But still, I can't put the donation to five hundred students on the same level as saving the bodies, if not the souls as well, of five hundred orphans. But let's move from the point of mercy to that of justice. You have been given land and raised money for an Orphan House; Can you apply this for another purpose—at least, as long as there are still orphans in Georgia? I only touch on that, although it is an important point, and leave it to your own consideration if some of it may not be properly applied to maintain the original design. By speaking thus freely on so delicate a subject, I have given you a fresh proof of the sincerity with which I am

His always affectionate friend and brother. [16]

 

Whitefield's Safe Arrival in Carolina

 

Mr. Keen informed me some time ago of his safe arrival at Carolina; which, indeed, he could not doubt for a moment, notwithstanding the empty rumour of his expulsion, which was so common in London. I trust that our Lord has more work for you to do in Europe as well as in America

 

To George Whitefield 

LEWISHAM, February 21, 1770.

 

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- Mr. Keen informed me some time ago of his safe arrival at Carolina; which, indeed, he could not doubt for a moment, notwithstanding the empty rumour of his expulsion, which was so common in London. I trust that our Lord has more work for you to do in Europe as well as in America. And who knows, but before you get back to England maybe I'll pay another visit to the New World? [See letters for February 17 and December 14.] I was strongly requested by several friends of ours in New York and Philadelphia. They invoke many motives, some of which seem to carry considerable weight. And my age is no problem at all; for I bless God that my health is not nearly as good, but abundantly better in several respects than when I was twenty-five. But there are so many reasons on the other side that, so far, I can't determine anything; so I must wait for more in-depth light. Here I am: may the Lord make me as it seems that He is good. For the present, I must implore you to make up for my lack of service by encouraging our preachers, as you see fit, who are still comparatively young and inexperienced, by giving them such counsel as they think fit, and, above all, by exhorting them, not only to love one another, but, if it be possible, as far as they can live in peace with all men.

Some time ago, since you left, I heard a circumstance that greatly worried me—namely, that the College or Academy in Georgia had swallowed up the Orphans' House. Should I give my judgment without being asked? I think friendship requires me to must. Are there not, then, two points that come into consideration—a point of mercy and a point of justice? As to the former, it cannot be asked, Can there be greater charity on earth than to raise orphans? What is a college or academy compared to this? Unless you can have a college like maybe there isn't on Earth. I know the value of learning and I run the risk of valuing it too much than too little. But still, I can't put the donation to five hundred students on the same level as saving the bodies, if not the souls as well, of five hundred orphans. But let's move from the point of mercy to that of justice. You have been given land and raised money for an Orphan House; Can you apply this for another purpose—at least, as long as there are still orphans in Georgia? I only touch on that, although it is an important point, and leave it to your own consideration if some of it may not be properly applied to maintain the original design. By speaking thus freely on so delicate a subject, I have given you a fresh proof of the sincerity with which I am

His always affectionate friend and brother.

 

I am a follower of peace

 

 

You heard the cry, Whitefield against Wesley; but you will never hear, Wesley against Whitefield.' Since then, I have been a follower of peace

 

 

For Mrs.Turner   

 

Os DEVIZES, 18 SEPTEMBER 1772.

 

Many years ago, when my son (as he called himself for several years) Mr. Whitefield declared war on me, several asked, and repeatedly, 'When are you going to answer Mr. Whitefield's book?' I replied: 'Never. You heard the cry, Whitefield against Wesley; but you will never hear, Wesley against Whitefield.' Since then, I have been a follower of peace



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