Wesley's discipleship with a rich young woman

 

 Wesley recommended that Miss March go and see the poor and sick in their little houses

 

Odilon Massolar Chaves

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Odilon Massolar Chaves is a retired Methodist pastor, with a doctorate in Theology and History from the Methodist University of São Paulo.

Son of Rev. Adherico Ribeiro Chaves and Roza Massolar Chaves.

He is married to RoseMary.

He has two daughters: Liliana and Luciana.

His thesis dealt with the Methodist revival in England in the eighteenth century and its contribution as a paradigm for our days.

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Table of Contents

 

 

·       Introduction

·       Who was Miss Helena. March

·       Preparation for Every Fruit of the Holy Spirit

·       Two Types of People You Might Have to Deal With in Your Band

·       A treasure in an earthen vessel

·       It's wrong to seek their approval in the band

·       Fashion and customs are nothing to you

·       You have nothing external that will prevent you from waiting on God carelessly and without distractions

·       She's going to need more from a faithful friend

·       A soul full of love

·       Using Grace Given Is the Right Way to Get More Grace

·       Breaking evil reasoning

·       A degree of anger, but not sinful anger

·       The Most Desirable Prayer

·       As long as we dwell in a house of clay, it can affect the mind

·       Learning to think

·       Be a follower of her, even as she was of Christ

·       Go see the poor and sick in their own little houses

·       I want you to talk more, abundantly, with the poorest of the people

·       Constantly visit the poor, the widows, the sick, the fatherless in their affliction

·       I am sorry that you are content with lower degrees of usefulness and holiness than what you are called to have

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Introduction

 

"Wesley's Discipleship with a Rich Young Woman" is a 36-page book based on Wesley's letters to Jane C. March (Miss March).

Wesley wrote to Miss Helena. March aiming for her to be liberated and achieve holiness. In 1771, Wesley told her, "I am glad that you have finally broken those evil reasonings which for so long have repressed you and prevented you from recognizing the things that have been freely given you of God."

On how to pray, Wesley told him, "The most desirable prayer is that where we can pour out our soul and converse freely with God."

Wesley recommended Miss Helena Sánchez. March to see the poor and sick in their little houses, to practice the works of mercy.

Wesley told March to follow Jane Cooper's example: "That lovely Saint Jane Cooper! There was the proper mixture of intellect and passion! I remember one of the last times I saw her, before the last illness, the look, the attitude, the words! My dear friend, be a follower of her, just as she was of Christ."

Wesley taught him that the best rule of all is to follow God's will.

They were letters written for 17 years. From 1777, after she was ill, there was no further news from Miss Helena. March.

An example of discipleship that edifies and inspires us for our days.

 

The Author

 

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Who was Miss March

 

Jane C. March, whom Wesley often called Miss S. March, who lived in Bristol, was "a woman of means and good education who joined the Methodist revival fervently about the year 1760." [1]

March was "a wealthy and devout Methodist who served as a spiritual confidant. Wesley wrote more than 40 letters to her between 1760 and 1777, guiding her spiritual journey and teaching a balanced life of piety and service." [2]

Miss Helena's wealth March came from his father, Thomas March, "a prosperous London merchant, and Jane Lisle, a member of an important family of the aristocracy. His family had Huguenot (French) ancestry and had been settled in England since the seventeenth century." [3]

Wesley's letters to Miss Helena March emphasize some central themes of Methodist doctrine:

"Works of Mercy: In a famous letter from 1775, Wesley challenged her to pick up her cross and physically visit the poor and sick in her "little shacks," framing works of mercy as crucial to love between neighbors.

 

The State of Wild Nature: He comforted her during periods of dryness or spiritual doubt, assuring her that such struggles are normal even for mature and justified believers.

 

Christian Perfection: He often reminded her not to get caught up in legalistic works, but rather to seek the "humble, gentle, patient love of God" through simple faith.[4] 

The Correspondence and the Legacy

"Miss S. March: She was a gentlewoman, cultured and religiously dedicated, but she often felt spiritually inadequate.

 

Wesley's Counseling: He used these letters (more than 40 over the course of 17 years) to shape her understanding of practical holiness. In a famous response, Wesley encouraged her to abandon her aristocratic airs, saying, "Put aside the gentle lady ... You are an heir of God! Go visit the poor and sick in their little shacks."

 

Practical Theology: The letters address God's grace, the various degrees of communion, and cement Wesley's view that the Christian faith should not be limited to contemplation, but result in action and service to those in need."[5]

 March experienced serious health problems in 1774, but Wesley himself recorded in a letter of June of that year that she was recovering and was able to ride daily. [6]

In a letter to Mary Bishop, 1777, Wesley said: "I hope that Miss Bishop. March is regaining his strength as well as you are." [7]

Wesley's letters to Miss Helena March were respectful, friendly, and spiritual in character with a view to their growth in holiness.

Some of them we publish here and highlight and of each one we highlight a main part:

 

Preparation for Every Fruit of the Holy Spirit

 

Nothing contributes more to seriousness than humility, for it is a preparation for every fruit of the Holy Spirit

 

 

For Miss Helena. March

DUBLIN, April 16, 1760.

Eltham is indeed barren soil. I fear that few know anything about the power of religion, and few who have even the form. But God is there, and He can supply every desire. Nothing contributes more to seriousness than humility, for it is a preparation for every fruit of the Holy Spirit; and the knowledge of our desperate state for sin has a particular tendency to keep us faithful after deliverance; and this sincerity can hardly consist in lightness, either of temperament or demeanor.

Those who have tasted the goodness of God often fail to declare it. They do not awaken the gift of God that is in every believer, inciting one another to continual gratitude, and provoking one another to love and good works. We must never be content to make a battle drawn, to separate ourselves neither better nor worse than we have found. Christian conversation is too precious a talent to be thus wasted.

It does not take a great deal of natural wisdom to see God in all things—in all His works of creation and also of providence. This is, in fact, a branch of spiritual wisdom, and is given more and more to believers as they advance in purity of heart.

It would probably be helpful for you to be as regular as possible: I mean, to allocate those hours to such jobs; just so you don't bother when Providence calls you from them. For the best rule of all is to follow the will of God. [8]

 

Two Types of People You Might Have to Deal With in Your Band

 

As for your band, there are two types of people you may have to deal with—the sincere and the off-duty: the way you should deal with one is quite different from the way one would deal with the other

 

For Miss Helena. March

ATHLONE, May 13, 1762.

You did well to write. 'It is good to hide the secrets of a king, but to declare the loving kindness of the Lord.' [See Tobit xii. 7.] Have you never met any bum since? Your mind has always been on God. Do you find every thought led to the obedience of Christ? Do not lodge in you vain thoughts (useless, insignificant, unedifying? Does the corruptible body sometimes, more or less, press upon the soul? Did God make his own devout dreams? I have known Satan attack in his sleep (trying to terrify or frighten) those he could not touch when they were awake.

As for your band, there are two types of people you might have to deal with—the sincere and the off-duty: the way you should deal with one is quite different from the way one would deal with the other. The latter you should look for and find out why they are relaxed; He exhorts them to repent, to be zealous, to do the first works. The first is just to encourage, exhort them to advance to the goal, tell them to grab the prize so close! And do it yourself. Receive a thousand more blessings; Believe more, love more: You can't love enough. Beware of sins of omission. In this way you will fulfill the joy of your affectionate brother. [9]

 

A treasure in an earthen vessel

 

But remember, on the other hand, that you have this treasure in an earthenware vessel; You dwell in a poor, shattered house of clay, which presses upon the immortal spirit. That is why all your thoughts, words, and actions are so imperfect, so far from living up to the standard (that law of love which, were it not for the corruptible body, your soul would respond to on all occasions), that you might as well say until you go to the One you love

 

For Miss Helena. March

LONDON, April 7, 1763.

The true gospel touches on both Calvinism and antinomianism; so that nothing but the mighty power of God can prevent us from slipping into one or the other.

The most beautiful point of all that relates to Christian perfection is what you ask. So all is right: those who love God with all their hearts, and all men as themselves, are perfectly written in the scriptures. And there certainly are; otherwise, God's promise would only be a mockery of human weakness. Hold on to that. But remember, on the other hand, that you have this treasure in an earthenware vessel; You dwell in a poor, shattered house of clay, which presses upon the immortal spirit. That is why all your thoughts, words, and actions are so imperfect, so far from living up to the standard (that law of love which, were it not for the corruptible body, your soul would respond to on all occasions), that you might as well say until you go to the One you love:

Every moment, Lord, I need

The merit of Your death. [10]

 

It's wrong to seek their approval in the band

 

I don't see that you can talk any other way than in your band. If you sought their approval, that would be wrong; But you can suffer without guilt. In fact, in these circumstances you should; since it is undeniably clear that acting differently would harm rather than help their souls.

 

For Miss Helena. March

NORWICH, October 13, 1764.

I don't see that you can talk any other way than in your band. If you sought their approval, that would be wrong; But you can suffer without guilt. In fact, in these circumstances you should; since it is undeniably clear that acting differently would harm rather than help their souls. I believe that Miss Helena S. Foard thought he felt evil before he felt it, and with that thought he gave reason for his re-entry. You should not explicitly speak to too many: very few would understand or know how to advise you. For some time I thought Maxfield knew, and so I was glad of your knowledge of him, hoping that he would lead you by the hand in a more profitable way than I did. But then I doubted it. May the Lord send help through whom He will send!

From what not only you, but many others have also experienced, we find that there is very often a kind of wilderness state, not only after justification, but even after deliverance from sin; and I doubt whether the sermon [See the sermon on The State of Wild Nature in the Works, vi. 77-91.] in this state perhaps does not give him light in this case also. But the most frequent cause of this second darkness or suffering, I believe, is evil reasoning: hence three out of four of those who abandon their confidence are gradually induced to do so. And if this is the cause, is there any way to regain that liberation but by regaining your confidence? And can you receive it if you do not receive it freely, not by works, but by mere grace? This is the way: walk on it. Dare to believe! Look up and see your Savior near! When tomorrow, or today No, today hear His voice! At this moment; In this place! Lord, speak; Your servant hears! [11]

 

Fashion and customs are nothing to you

 

Fashion and customs are nothing to you: you have an even more excellent rule. You are determined to be a biblical Christian; and that, by the grace of God, not in some, but in all points. Go forward in God's name and in the power of His power

 

For Miss Helena. March

PORTARLINGTON, June 29, 1767.

For a few days now you've been on my mind a lot. Are you still making the most of life by spending a few days in exactly the way you think is most for the glory of God? And still hold fast what he has received and look for the fullness of the promise? He can certainly retain all that sincerity of expectation to which Mr. Maxfield [See the Journal, v. 5-7; and letter of October 13, 1764.] used to incite him, without any prejudice, either to humility or sobriety of spirit. No doubt it is possible, with Mr. Dryden's permission, 'to be wise and to love' [Palamon and Arcite, ii. 364-5 (Amare et sapere vix deo conceditur-- Publius Syrus): The proverb holds that to be wise and to love / Is hardly bestowed upon the gods above.] at the same time; And neither of these two need interfere with the other, for the spirit of love is also the spirit of wisdom. Is your whole family breathing this spirit and strengthening each other's hands in God? I hope you will have the satisfaction of observing the same in the majority of those around you, and of seeing the work of God prosper, wherever you have the opportunity to be. When you are with the gentle part of your acquaintance, you feel a more immediate need to watch prayer, or you will insensibly drink the lightness of their spirit and diminish a little the accuracy of your walk. No, stand firm, walking at every point as Christ also walked. Fashion and customs are nothing to you: you have an even more excellent rule. You are determined to be a biblical Christian; and that, by the grace of God, not in some, but in all points. Go forward in the name of God and in the power of His power. [Compare his last letter, to Wilberforce, February 26, 1791.] Still let your eye be single; aim at one point; retain and increase your fellowship with God! You have nothing else to do.

Happy and wise, may time redeem,

And live, my friend, and die to Him.

Sometimes we must look at the external things: this is the present condition of humanity. But we need to get home quickly; for all but Christ reign in the heart

Daily, in His grace, to grow

What else do we have to care about? Just now use all the grace we have received and expect everything we want! The Lord Jesus swallowed you up in His love! [12]

 

You have nothing external that will prevent you from waiting on God carelessly and without distractions

 

You now see clearly the advantages you enjoy: you have nothing external that prevents your careless, undistracted waiting on God

 

For Miss Helena. March

May 1769.

By comparing his own outward state with that of Miss Helena Sánchez. Thornton, you now see clearly the advantages you enjoy: you have nothing outward to prevent your careless, undistracted waiting on God. No one has a right to interrupt you while you are exercised in divine things and striving to be holy in body and spirit. You may have only a certain number and no connection with anyone, as experience shows that it is profitable for you. O stand firm in this freedom, glorifying God with all that you have and all that you are!

It is remarkable that St. Paul places this as the last of all, that 'love endureth all things'; and this is the summary of his desire towards the Colossians, 'that they may be strengthened with all patience and patience with joy.' Those who have achieved this are ready for inheritance and ready to welcome their friends to the light. There is a time when we grow towards this, even without any sensible increase; As in the parable, the seed grows and sprouts he does not know how. Often, in fact, we know how the power of the Most High suddenly overshadows us, while the first or pure love pours into our hearts. But at other times He confirms and increases this love gradually and almost insensibly.

Death has had a great commission this year in relation to our Societies in Ireland as well as in England. As soon as I left Dublin [He left on April 3.] four or five of our members were taken away in four or five days; three elders and two in the bloom of youth, one of whom had been full of love for a few years. They all witnessed a good confession at the end, and died with full hope. Nancy Rogers, [See Crookshank's Methodism in Ireland, i. 223; and to Jane Cooper, letter of September 11, 1765.] which I saw just before leaving town, breathed Jane Cooper's own spirit. I think your kindred spirits now know each other better than you and I, but no better than we will be when we meet together in God's paradise. [13]

 

She's going to need more from a faithful friend

 

If Ms. Thornton arriving in London, he would like you to take the first opportunity to talk to her. She's going to need a faithful friend more now than she's ever had in her life

 

For Miss Helena. March

CARMARTHEN, August 12, 1769.

Sometimes it is necessary to say, 'I will pray with the Spirit as well as with the understanding.' At other times, the understanding has little to do with it, while the soul is poured out in passive prayer. I believe we have found the answer to many prayers at the Conference, especially in the last two days. By the end, all the preachers were melted as they sang those lines to me,--

You who saved me here for so long,

A slightly longer salvage test;

Till, free from sin and fear,

I sink into a grave.

Until I'm happy to lay my body down,

The footsteps of your servant follow;

And oh, my crown of mercies

With a triumphant end!

Several scriptures show that we can pray with resignation for the life or tranquility of a friend: it is enough that every petition be closed with: 'Not as I will, but as You will.' It is true that a believer knows the devices of Satan as many and varied. But the Apostle means more than this—namely, that those who have the anointing of the Holy One are thus able to discern his artifices whenever they occur, and to distinguish them from the influences of the good Spirit, however finely disguised they may be. Answering for ourselves is often a criticism; and we much prefer to let people think and speak as they please: but it is a cross that we must often assume; otherwise, we 'do not walk in charity' if we do not 'reprove our brother'; If we "suffer sin upon him," we "hate our brother deep down."

If Ms. Thornton arriving in London, he would like you to take the first opportunity to talk to her. She will need a faithful friend more now than she has ever had in her life. I hope she hears reasons and more reasons why she should, out of duty, adapt a little to the world, have a few little friendships, and not be so picky about her dress. Now, as you have heard all this before, and have been enabled by the grace of God to discover Satan even with the face of his angel, and to resist all his attacks firmly, you will be better able to help and confirm it if you seek it out before it is too shaken.

I was a little surprised that several who, I believe, are full of love, but do not wish to die. It seems that God does not usually grant this wish until the hour of death approaches. Perhaps for many this would be of little use. First, let them learn how to live.

No doubt this rest was given "to sustain him during his sickness." But this is no reason why it should be withdrawn: it was certainly a degree of that rest which remains for the people of God. But it may be called by this or any other name; Names matter little: what you never have to let go. You can live in and for Jesus; Yes, and this continually, by simple faith and holy and humble love.

Leave Mary Thornton [Miss Thornton now lived with Miss March. See Methodist Magazine, 1805, p. 37; and letter in May, 1769, also on July 6, 1770.] Be as sensible as she wants or can be in relation to her own powerlessness and poverty. But let her not abandon that confidence which brings great reward. She experienced the pure love of God; Let no one take advantage of her being judged by fire (if necessary) to convince her to give it up. This general promise, 'In blessing will I bless thee,' certainly contains all the promises, whether related to this life or the next; and all are yours! May peace be multiplied upon you! [14]

 

A soul full of love

 

When things are seen from afar, one tends to imagine that no degree of sorrow could be found in a heart that rejoices forever; that no right temperament could be lacking, much less any degree of wrong temperament, subsisting, in a soul full of love.

 

For Miss Helena. March

DAWGREEN, July 6, 1770.

When things are seen from afar, one tends to imagine that no degree of sorrow could be found in a heart that rejoices forever; that no right temperament could be lacking, much less any degree of wrong temperament, subsisting, in a soul full of love. And yet I doubt whether there is any soul clothed with flesh and blood that has every right temper, and in which there is not a degree of a bad temper, supposing it to be from ill-calculated zeal, or more or less affection for any one than that person really deserves. When we say, 'This is a natural and necessary consequence of the union of the soul with a corruptible body,' the statement is by no means clear until we add, 'because of the weakness of understanding which results from this union'; Admitting this, the case is clear. There is such a close connection between right judgment and right temperaments, as well as right practice, that the latter cannot easily subsist without the former. Some wrong temper, at least in a small measure, almost necessarily arises from wrong judgments: I apprehend when many say, 'Sin must remain while the body remaineth,' that is what they mean, though they cannot understand it.

You say, 'My silence usually stems from my opinions and thoughts about myself as a Christian.' Bishop Fenelon [Archbishop of Cambria, 1695-1715.] says: 'Simplicity is that grace which frees the soul from all unnecessary reflections on itself.' Here's a kind of simplicity you want! When I speak or write to you, I have you in front of my eyes, but generally speaking, I don't think about myself. I don't think about whether I'm wise or foolish, wise or ignorant; But I see you aiming for glory and immortality, and say exactly what I hope can direct your paths on the path and keep it from getting tired or fading in your mind. Our Lord will ordain all right for Sister Thornton. [See letters of August 12, 1769 and April 14, 1771 to Miss Helena S. March.] What can hurt those who trust him?[15]

 

Using Grace Given Is the Right Way to Get More Grace

 

Using grace given is the right way to get more grace. Using all the faith you have will bring an increase in faith. But this word is far-reaching: it embraces the full exercise of every talent entrusted to us. This comprises the full extent of internal and external religion.

 

For Miss Helena. March

BRISTOL, September 15, 1770.

Using grace given is the right way to get more grace. Using all the faith you have will bring an increase in faith. But this word is far-reaching: it embraces the full exercise of every talent entrusted to us. This comprises the full extent of internal and external religion. In order for you to attend to this constantly and effectively, you need that prayer: 'Give me understanding, that I may keep Your law; yes, that I may keep it with all my heart.' This is to 'get the best out of life', which cannot be done without growing in grace. I believe it would help you to read and consider the sermon on Self-denial in the fourth volume, [See Works, vi. 103--14.] and the one on Universal Consciousness in the Christian Library.

A feeling of wants and weaknesses, with various trials and temptations, will do no real harm, though they will cause heaviness for a time and diminish your joy in the Lord. It is wrong to take care of this in order to weaken your faith; And, on the whole, it is not wrong to 'form your estimate of the state of your soul from your sensations'—not, indeed, by these alone, but by them in conjunction with your words and actions. It is true that we cannot judge ourselves by the measure of our joy, the most variable sensation of all our persons, and often depending to a great extent on the state of our blood and spirits. But if you add love, joy, peace, meekness, gentleness, and resignation, I know of no more certain rule for judging your state before God.

What is the difference between 'the state of my mind and the state of my soul'? Is there a difference in the width of a strand of hair? I will not say. If there is one, perhaps it is this: the frame may signify a single transitory sensation; the state, a more complicated and lasting sensation, something we usually feel. By framing, some may mean fleeting passions; by state, ingrained temperaments. But I don't know whether we have the authority to use these terms in this way or to distinguish one from the other. He whose mind is in a good state is certainly a good man as long as he continues to do so. Therefore, it would not require you to cease judging your state by your state of mind any more than it would require you to stop breathing.

Unless you deal very closely with those in your care, you will not give an account of them joyfully. Advice and warnings from a distance will do no harm or benefit. For those who indulge in fantasy, perhaps read or recommend the Council to Methodists on this topic. It would be appropriate to go to the root of the matter once or twice; Then let him sleep, and after a few weeks try again. A Methodist who wears fine clothes or gays must suffer a loss of soul, though he may retain a little life; but it will never attain a high degree of holiness or happiness. [See Works, xi. 466-77; and letter of February 26, 1776.] [16]

 

Breaking evil reasoning

 

I am glad that he has finally broken those evil reasonings that for so long have repressed him and prevented him from recognizing the things that have been freely granted to him by God

 

For Miss Helena. March

ATHLONE, April 14, 1771.

Whatever comes from you pleases me; Your letters always give me pleasure, but none more so than the last one, which brings the welcome news of the revival of God's work among you. Will you encourage I-- T-- [Miss S. Thornton, from London, a close friend of John Fletcher. See Bulmer's Memoirs of Mrs. Elizabeth Mortimer, p. 115; and letters of July 6, 1770 and December 18, 1780.] to send me a circumstantial account of God's agreements with his soul. Mr. Norris observes that no part of history is so fruitful as that relating to the great changes in states and kingdoms; and it is certain that no part of Christian history is so profitable as that which relates to great changes made in our souls: these, therefore, should be carefully observed and valued for the encouragement of our brethren.

I am glad that he has finally broken those evil reasonings that for so long have repressed him and prevented him from recognizing the things that have been freely granted to him by God. Always remember that the essence of Christian holiness is simplicity and purity; a design, a desire—total devotion to God. But this admits of a thousand degrees and variations, and will certainly be tried by a thousand temptations; But in all these things you will be more than a conqueror.

It takes God (as it were) an abundance of pains to hide man's pride; And you are in more danger of it than many, if only for external advantages. You are happy if you use these for this one purpose, to be devoted to God within and without, and that more than you might be in other circumstances. I have just talked with that excellent woman, Molly Penington: what a mystery that one of such gifts and of so much grace should be fixed in a place where it is almost useless! How much more grateful you can be to have the opportunity to employ all the talent God has given you. If you want to keep the health talent, go to bed early and wake up early. [17]

 

A degree of anger, but not sinful anger

 

What you feel is certainly a degree of anger, but not sinful anger. There should be in us (as there was in our Lord) not only a perception that this or that is evil, but also an emotion of the mind, a sensation or passion suited to it

 

For Miss Helena. March

CASTLEBAR, May 31, 1771.

God's relations with man are infinitely varied, and cannot be restricted to any general rule; In both justification and sanctification, he often acts in a way that we cannot explain.

There can be no more fitting phrase than the one you have used, and I understand its meaning well; Still, it is certain that you are still a transgressor—that is, of the perfect, Adamic law. But while it is true that all sin is a transgression of this law, it is by no means true (though we have so often taken it for granted) that all transgressions of this law are sin: no, not at all—only all voluntary transgressions of it; No other is a sin against the law of the gospel.

While we have 'the constant impression of faith, perceiving what is to come'; However, as long as we are in the body, we have only an imperfect and gloomy knowledge of the things of eternity. For now, we only see them in a glass, a mirror, which is nothing more than a shadow of them; hence we see them in a gloomy way, or in an enigma, while St. Paul speaks. The whole unseen world is still an enigma to us; and it seems to be in this sense that some writers speak so much of the night or darkness of faith—that is, when in opposition to the vision; that is, for the vision of the things we shall have when the veil of flesh and blood is removed.

These reasonings about the measure of holiness (a curious question, not very useful) are not inconsistent with pure love, but tend to diminish it; And if you chased them away, they would lead you to disbelief.

What you feel is certainly a degree of anger, but not sinful anger. There should be in us (as there was in our Lord) not only a perception that this or that is evil, but also an emotion of the mind, a sensation or passion suited to it. This anger at sin, accompanied by love and compassion for the sinner, is so far from being sin in itself, that it becomes rather a duty. St. Paul's word is, 'not easily provoked' to any paroxysm of anger: neither do you; Yet I suppose there is in you, when you feel a proper anger at sin, a hasty movement of the blood and spirits, which is an imperfection, and will be done away with. [18]

 

 

The Most Desirable Prayer

 

The most desirable prayer is that where we can pour out our soul and converse freely with God. But that's not all He is acceptable for. 'I love one,' said a holy man, 'who endures in dry service.' Beware of the idea that even this is lost labor. God does much work in the heart, even in these seasons

 

For Miss Helena. March

COCKHILL, June, 1771.

Undoubtedly, the reward that is purchased for us by the blood of the covenant will be proportional to what we are (by grace), what we do, and what we suffer. Whatever therefore hinders us from doing good prevents us from receiving so full a reward; And what can compensate for this loss? It is certainly right that we should bear one another's burdens; let us weep with those who weep, and for those who do not weep for themselves. 'When Jesus saw them weeping, He was troubled.' He willingly held this emotion; He willingly suffered this sorrow; and it is good for us to follow in His footsteps. 'But how long' Only that it does not disqualify us for any other part of our duty; so far as to soften, not disturb, the mind, for it makes us more, not less, zealous for good works.

To be sure, there are various types and degrees of communion with God. We cannot restrict it to just one; it can encompass the exercise of all affection, whether isolated or mixed in various ways; and it can cross all our outside jobs. The most desirable prayer is that where we can pour out our soul and converse freely with God. But that's not all He is acceptable for. 'I love one,' said a holy man, 'who endures in dry service.' Beware of the idea that even this is lost labor. God does much work in the heart, even in these seasons.

And when the soul, sighing to be approved,

He says, 'Could I love?' and stops God writes, 'I loved!'

And yet the comfort is that you need not rest here: you can go on until your whole heart is love; until you "rejoice forever, pray without ceasing, and in everything give grace." You know that this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.

I think Molly Penington [See letters of May 30, 1771, and September 16, 1780.] enjoys this, and continually grows in grace. As well as two or three more members in this Society. But unfortunately they want deeper preachers, and those who help them to advance by explaining the deep things of God.

Peace be with your spirit. [19]

 

 

As long as we dwell in a house of clay, it can affect the mind

 

As long as we dwell in a house of clay, it can affect the mind; sometimes dulling or darkening the understanding, and sometimes more directly deadening and depressing the soul, sinking it into anguish and sorrow

 

For Miss Helena. March

DUBLIN, July 13, 1771.

As long as we dwell in a house of clay, it can affect the mind; sometimes dulling or darkening the understanding, and sometimes more directly deadening and depressing the soul, sinking it into anguish and sorrow. In this state, doubt or fear of one kind or another will naturally arise. And the prince of this world, who well knows what we are made of, will not fail to improve the occasion, to disturb, though he cannot defile, the heart which God has cleansed from all unrighteousness.

I rejoice with you in regard to poor Martin Madan. [See the reference to his mother in Wesley, ii. of Tyerman. 284.] People who are extremely loyal to their parents rarely fail to receive a reward, even in today's world.

My appeal to America is still unclear. [See letters of December 14, 1770 and August 14, 1771 (to Philothea Briggs).] I have nothing to do with it as long as they can be without me. I am now indebted to the people of England and Ireland, and especially to those who believe.

You have a delicate role to play in relation to Philadelphia. [See the previous letter and the one dated September 13.] There are so many serious defects in her natural temperament that it will require much grace to make her thoroughly Christian; neither of the two graces will shine in her as she would in others. You must carefully encourage what is of God in her, and tenderly rebuke what is of nature. I fear for P--D-- , [Damaris Perronet.] lest she be less zealous for good deeds than she was before. I doubt she has little incentive to do so at the moment.

In the 13th of [the First of] Corinthians you have the height and depth of true perfection; and it is observable that St. Paul speaks all the time about the love of our neighbor, which actually flows from the love of God. Mr. De Renty is an excellent pattern of this. But many things in your fellowship with God will not be explained until the Holy Spirit explains them by writing them on your heart. This darkness that often clouded their understanding I consider something quite supernatural. I believe that the spirit of darkness spreads a mist over your mind, as far as is permitted; and that the best remedy is simply to look to God, and the cloud will flee in His presence.--I am, etc. [20]

 

 

Learning to think

 

We learn to think by reading and meditating on what we read, talking to sensible people and by everything that improves the heart. As purity of heart (as Mr. Norris observes) both cleanses the medium by which we see and strengthens the faculty, mechanical rules are of little use unless one has opportunity to learn the elements of logic; But it is a miserable task to learn them without an instructor

 

For Miss Helena. March

OTLEY, July 1, 1772.

It's time wasted to consider whether you write well or badly; You speak from the heart, and that is enough. Unbelief is either total the absence of faith; or partial, the lack of more faith. In this latter sense, every believer can complain of unbelief unless he is filled with faith and the Holy Spirit. So it's all noon. Still, we can pray, 'Lord, increase our faith.'

We learn to think by reading and meditating on what we read, talking to sensible people and by everything that improves the heart. As purity of heart (as Mr. Norris observes) both cleanses the medium by which we see and strengthens the faculty, mechanical rules are of little use unless one has opportunity to learn the elements of logic; But it is a miserable task to learn them without an instructor.

Total renunciation implies total love. Give Him your will, and you give Him your heart.

You need not be careful in this matter, whether it applies directly to one Person or the other, since He and the Father are one. Pray exactly as you are guided, without reasoning, in all simplicity. Be a child hanging on to the one who loves you. [21]

 

 

Be a follower of her, even as she was of Christ

 

That lovely saint Jane Cooper! There was the proper mixture of intellect and passion! I remember one of the last times I saw her, before the last illness, the look, the attitude, the words! My dear friend, be her follower, just as she was Christ's

 

For Miss Helena. March

February 11, 1775.

There seems to be something in our excellent friend very close to apathy. 'A clergyman,' said one (but I do not agree with him on this), 'must be all intellect, without passion.' It seems to be (I won't say it is) not far from it. It is true that, for this reason, we can avoid a lot of pain, but we must also lose a lot of happiness. So this is a state I cannot desire. Before giving me pleasure and pain too; Be better

Simple life, with growing passions,

The advantage or the burden of an hour.

But who reached this Who walks the middle way, equally distant from both extremes, I will tell you, one who did (though the memory of her still brings me tears), that lovely saint Jane Cooper! There was the proper mixture of intellect and passion! I remember one of the last times I saw her, before the last illness, the look, the attitude, the words! My dear friend, be a follower of her, just as she was of Christ. [22]

 

Go see the poor and sick in their own little houses

 

The prolongation of your life and the restoration of your health are priceless blessings. But you ask how you are going to improve them for the glory of the Giver? And are you willing to know? Then I'll tell you how. Go see the poor and sick in their own little houses. Take up your cross, woman! Remember faith! Jesus went before you, and he will go with you.

 

 

For Miss Helena. March

CHARLEMONT, June 9, 1775.

Quite possibly, if I live another seven years, we should know each other. I really think that your reserve is exhausted, although only by a hair at a time. Speed up the pace. What you do, do it fast. 'Almost nothing important enough to write'! Why, couldn't you say something about yourself? And is there anything related to your well-being that isn't important to me? Am I not concerned about everything that concerns you that diminishes or increases your happiness? I want you to be as happy and (for that) as holy as an angel, so that you do God's will on earth as angels do in heaven.

I am less careful about his increase in knowledge beyond what he usually enjoys. There is a risk that you put more emphasis on this than the justified reason. Otherwise, you would make a lot of profit from sermons, which do not improve your knowledge—which do not apply to the understanding as directly as they do to the heart. I feel more like warmth than light. I value light; But it's nothing compared to love. Aim at this, my dear friend, in all public exercises, and you will rarely be disappointed. Then you will not stop at the threshold of perfection (I hope you will not stop now), but you will go forward to the goal, to the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus, until you know experientially all that love of God which imparts all (speculative) knowledge.

The prolongation of your life and the restoration of your health are priceless blessings. But you ask how you are going to improve them for the glory of the Giver? And are you willing to know? Then I'll tell you how. Go see the poor and sick in their own little house Take up your cross, woman! Remember faith! Jesus went before you, and he will go with you. Push the lady away; You have a superior character.

You are God's heir and Christ's joint heir! Will you not find Him in the air with ten thousand of His saints? Oh be ready! [23]

 

I want you to talk more, abundantly, with the poorest of the people

 

I want you to converse more abundantly with the poorest of the people, who, if they have no taste, have souls, which they can carry on their way to heaven. And they have (many of them) faith and love of God to a greater extent than anyone I know

 

For Miss Helena. March

LONDON, February 7, 1776.

I have met some uneducated poor people who have exquisite taste and feeling; and many, many, of the rich who have almost none. But I do not speak of this: I want you to converse more abundantly with the poorest of the people, who, if they have no taste, have souls, which they can take on their way to heaven. And they have (many of them) faith and love of God to a greater extent than anyone I know. To invade this in spite of the filth and a hundred disgusting circumstances, thus driving away the lady. Don't limit your conversation to kind and elegant people. I would like it as much as you do; but I can find no precedent for it in the life of our Lord or any of His Apostles. My dear friend, let you and me walk as He walked.

Now I understand you in relation to the Perronets; but I am afraid that in this you are too delicate. It is certain that his preaching is accompanied by the power of God to the hearts of many; And why not for yours? Isn't it for lack of simplicity? 'Will you listen, Mr. Wesley?' said a friend of Mr. Blackwell's. 'No,' he replied, 'I will listen to God: I listen to Him, who preaches; otherwise I lose all my work.'

'You will only be satisfied with converting worlds. You must chop wood or carry bricks and mortar; and when he does this in obedience to the command of Providence, it will be more profitable for his own soul than for the other.' You may remember another comment by Mr. De Renty: 'Then I realized that a well-educated Christian is never hindered by anyone or thing. For everything that hinders him from doing good works gives him a new opportunity of submitting his will to the will of God; which, at that moment, is more pleasing to God and more profitable to his soul than anything else he can do.'

Never let your expenses outweigh your income. To servants I would give as much as others give for the same service, and no more. It is impossible to establish general rules about 'saving all we can' and 'giving all we can'. In this, it seems, we need to be guided from time to time by the anointing of the Holy One. Evil spirits have, no doubt, much work to do in an evil world; often in agreement with wicked men, and often without them.

What I advise is not to make friends or even to meet poor, unfashionable, and uneducated people, but often, or rather constantly, to visit the poor, the widows, the sick, the fatherless in their affliction; and this, though they must have nothing to commend them, except that they are purchased with the blood of Christ. It is true that this does not please flesh and blood. [24] 

 

Constantly visit the poor, the widows, the sick, the fatherless in their affliction 

 

What I advise is not to make friends with or even to meet poor, unfashionable, and uneducated persons, but often, or rather constantly, to visit the poor, the widows, the sick, the fatherless in their affliction; and this, though they ought to have nothing to commend them, except that they are bought with the blood of Christ. It is true that this does not please flesh and blood. 

 

For Miss Helena. March

LONDON, February 26, 1776.

What I advise is not to make friends or even to meet poor, unfashionable, and uneducated people, but often, or rather constantly, to visit the poor, the widows, the sick, the fatherless in their affliction; and this, though they must have nothing to commend them, except that they are purchased with the blood of Christ. It is true that this does not please flesh and blood. There are a thousand circumstances usually involving this which shock the delicacy of our nature, or rather of our education. But still the blessing that comes after this labor of love will more than balance the cross,

'To be restless in the face of obligations that we cannot pay' is certainly the fruit of diabolical generosity; and so Milton, with great decency, ascribes it to the devil, and makes him speak quite coherently when he speaks of his obligations to God himself--

So heavy, still paying, still owing.

I'm completely different; I fully agree with you that the more sensible we are about such obligations, the happier we are. Certainly this yoke is easy and this weight is light.

Perhaps, if you read another of Thoughts on Attire, you will clearly see that both reason and religion are more deeply concerned than we can imagine, even in the trifling article of clothing—insignificant compared with the heavier questions of the law, but in itself of great importance; and this, whether you consider yourself as an individual or a member of a Christian society. Surely Dr. Young can only mean, 'No one is happy unless he thinks so'; And, in fact, this is not a great discovery. Is it more than, 'No one is happy unless he is'? If he means more than that, he is wrong, for we know that the best man is the happiest; but if I thought I was the best man in the world, I would be very proud and, consequently, not happy at all. [25]

 

I am sorry that you are content with lower degrees of usefulness and holiness than what you are called to have

 

I'm worried about you; I am sorry that you are content with lower degrees of usefulness and holiness than what you are called to have. But I can't help it: so I submit

 

For Miss Helena. March

NEAR LONDON, DECEMBER  10, 1777.

You don't understand my way of life. Although I am always in a hurry, I am never in a hurry'; because I never do more work than I can do with perfect calmness of mind. It is true that I travel four or five thousand miles a year. But I usually travel alone in my carriage, and consequently I am as retired ten hours a day as if I were in a desert. On other days, I never spend less than three hours (often ten or twelve) alone. Therefore, there are few people in the kingdom who spend so many hours isolated from the whole company. Still, I find time to visit the sick and the poor; and I must do so, if I believe the Bible, if I believe these are the signs by which the Shepherd of Israel will know and judge His sheep in the great day; Therefore, when there is time and opportunity for it, who can doubt it but it is a matter of absolute duty? When I was at Oxford and lived almost as a hermit, I did not see how any busy man could be saved. I scarcely thought it possible for a man to maintain the Christian spirit amid the noise and bustle of the world. God has taught me best from my own experience. I had ten times as many trades in America (i.e., at intervals) as I did in my entire life. But this did not prevent the silence of the spirit.

Mr. Boehm [See letter of August 31, 1772 to Philothea Briggs.] was chaplain to Prince George of Denmark, secretary to him and Queen Anne, chief manager of almost all the public charities of the realm, and employed in numerous private institutions. A close friend, knowing this, said to him when they were alone, 'Sir, aren't you hurt by this incredible rush of business? I have seen you in your office, surrounded by people, listening to one, dictating to another, and at the same time writing to a third; could you then maintain a sense of God's presence? He replied, 'All that company and all that business did not hinder or diminish my communion with God any more than if I were alone in a church, kneeling before the communion table.' Wasn't it the same with him, to whom Gregory Lopez said, 'Go and be a hermit in Mexico'? I'm worried about you; I am sorry that you are content with lower degrees of usefulness and holiness than what you are called to have. But I cannot help it: so I submit; and I still am, my dear Miss Helena. March,

Yours with sincere affection. [26]

 

 



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[7] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1777  

[8] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1760/  

[9] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1762/

[10]https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1763/

[11] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1764/

[12] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1767/  

[13] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1769/  

[14] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1769/  

[15] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1770/  

[16] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1770/ 

[17] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1771/  

[18] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1771/  

[19] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1771/  

[20] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1771/  

[21] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1772/  

[22] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1775/  

[23] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1775/  

[24] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1776/  

[25] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1776/  

[26] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1777/

 

 

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