John Valton, the preacher who spent himself on behalf of his Master

 

Odilon Massolar Chaves 

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Odilon Massolar Chaves is a retired Methodist pastor, with a doctorate in Theology and History from the Methodist University of São Paulo.

Son of Rev. Adherico Ribeiro Chaves and Roza Massolar Chaves.

He is married to RoseMary.

He has two daughters: Liliana and Luciana.

His thesis dealt with the Methodist revival in England in the eighteenth century and its contribution as a paradigm for our days.

  

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Table of Contents

 

 

·       Introduction

·       Who was John Valton

·       Inner change is the only thing needed for you

·       A larger field of action is prepared for you

·       May God have called you to a more extensive work

·       He's now calling you

·       Your disabilities are not a limit

·       A revival of God's work is usually a consequence

·       Your Own Conscience Directed by God's Word

·       Take a journey of a thousand miles first

·       Come take over the books in London

·       Unskilled preachers

·       It looks like you'll be called to marry

·       Go in His name and in the power of His power

·       You are called to another part of the vineyard

·       An ill-advised step led to darkness

·       Wish you'd take on another burden for yourself

·       Despite the shame and natural shyness

·     To give you the freedom to spend a little time wherever God's work requires it

·       Men and women are already separated in the chapel

 

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Introduction

 

"John Valton, the Methodist Preacher Who Spent Himself for His Master" is a 33-page book about Wesley's letters to John Valton.

"The expression 'if he spent himself' perfectly defines his biography. Valton was in extremely fragile health, but he was ignorant of his own physical limits to preach the Gospel.

John Wesley himself, concerned about the destructive pace of his worker's work, wrote a letter to local Methodist leader Peggy Newman with an explicit plea:

"Be careful not to kill John Valton! You know he's continually striving to do more than he can." [1] 

Valton suffered for years with acute health crises and chronic physical pain. Wesley always advised him to take some actions and medications in order to take care of his health. He even offered him to work at the Methodist library in London in 1773: "Now I have another proposal to make to you, which requires someone with an honest heart and a lot of dedication. Come take over the books in London. I think that would take you six or seven hours a day. And you would have the opportunity to preach every Sunday and (if you like) often during the week."[2]

Wesley knew Valton well and knew that he used to push his own physical limits. In a letter to John Valton, February 25, 1778, Wesley advised him: "MY DEAR BROTHER, - You would do well to have a cup of nettle decoction[3] every morning and observe what food suits you best. Get used to the outdoors by going more or less every day when it doesn't rain." [4]

 

He was a blessed man. "It pleases God to bless Mr. Valton wherever he turns his face!" [5], is what Wesley said on February 13, 1784 to Robert Carr Brackenbury.

 

John Valton died in 1794, at the age of 54, "having expended all his physical strength for the sake of the Methodist revival." [6] Wesley said that he spent himself for his Master's sake. [7]

 

A story of extreme dedication and an example for our days.

 

The Author

 

 

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Who was John Valton

 

 

John Valton (1740–1794) was born in London on November 23, 1740. He was the son of French parents with a Roman Catholic background.

 

He "was one of the most faithful and dedicated itinerant preachers under the direct leadership of John Wesley in the early Methodist movement. Coming from a Catholic background and having worked in the British civil service (in the military ordnance office), he converted and joined Methodism, becoming a worker of great local relevance."[8]

 

In a 1776 letter to Ann Bolton, Wesley talks about what he thought of John Valon: "Mr. Valton is indeed a faithful worker, willing to spend and be spent by his Master." [9] 

In the same year, Wesley writes to Ann Bolton asking Valton for a favor: "I wish Mr. Valton or any of the other preachers would be as kind as to go to the Foundation and bring my gray horse to Witney." [10]

And as late as 1776, Wesley writes to Hannah Ball of Valton's exemplary life: "I imagine that most of those who have Mr. Valton's advice and example would be sincere." [11] 

In a 1776 letter to Mary the Bishop, Wesley reveals the confidence he had in John Valton by delegating tasks to him: "MY DEAR SISTER,-- You are quite clear about Miss Valton. Mahon. You have done everything in your power; and if she no longer accepts his services, her blood will be upon her own head. But I'm not going to give up on her just yet. I wrote to Mr. Valton at Oxford, and asked him to talk to Mrs. Mahon." [12]

And in another letter to Penelope Newman, on February 2, 1780, Wesley reveals that Valton is very devoted: "Beware of killing John Valton (...). You know he's continually striving to do more than he can do." [13]

John Valton served in important Methodist circuits such as Bristol, Bath and Manchester. [14]

 

"It pleases God to bless Mr. Valton wherever he turns his face!" [15] this is what Wesley said on February 13, 1784 to Robert Carr Brackenbury. 

Writing to the Methodist Preachers, August 23, 1789, Wesley shows Valton's initiative to build a preaching house: "Some years ago, Mr. Valton wrote to me from Yorkshire, informing me that there was great want of a larger preaching house in Dewsbury, and asking permission to make subscriptions and collections, in order to build one. I encouraged him to do them. The money was subscribed and collected, and the house built." [16] 

In a 1790 letter to John Valton, Wesley said, "Where you and Adam Clarke are, it would be strange if there were no revival." [17] 

Wesley often advised Valton on:

  • Doctrine and Discipline: Guidelines on the strict administration of the members of local societies. 
  • Health and Work: Concerns about the physical well-being of Valton, whom Wesley called "a faithful worker, willing to spend and be spent by his Master." [18]

 Wesley's letters reveal a great deal of care and confidence in John Valton's ministry:


 

 Inner change is the only thing needed for you

 

It is certainly right, with all possible care, to abstain from all outward evil: but this brings only a small benefit. Inner change is the only thing needed for you. You must be born again, or you will never gain a uniform and lasting freedom.

 

To John Valton 

LONDON, January 31, 1764.

It is certainly right, with all possible care, to abstain from all outward evil: but this brings only a small benefit. Inner change is the only thing needed for you. You must be born again, or you will never gain a uniform and lasting freedom. His whole soul is sick, or rather dead—dead to God, dead in sin. Awake, then, and rise from the dead, and Christ will give you light. Seeking a particular deliverance from a single sin is just wasted work. If it could be achieved, it would be worth little, because another would arise in its place. But, in fact, there cannot before there be a general deliverance from the guilt and power of sin. That's what you want, and what you should always be looking for. You want to be justified freely from all things, through the redemption that is in Jesus Christ. It may be helpful if you read the first volume of Sermons seriously and prayerfully. In fact, nothing will be of any use without prayer. Pray, succeed or not. When you are joyful and when you are heavy, still pray; Pray with many or few words, or none at all: you will surely find an answer of peace, and why not now—I am His servant, for Christ's sake. [19]

 

A larger field of action is prepared for you

 

Wherever you are, I don't doubt it, but you'll find something to do for God. But I don't think you should always stay in Purfleet; A larger field of action is prepared for you

 

To John Valton

 

LONDON, March 1, 1769.

MY DEAR BROTHER,--Wherever you are, I do not doubt it, but you will find something to do for God. But I don't think you should always stay in Purfleet; A larger field of action is prepared for you. In fact, the moment has not yet fully arrived. For now, therefore, work where you are. But be prepared, so that whenever our Lord calls, you may answer, 'Behold, I come to do Thy will, O God.'—I am[20]

Your affectionate brother.

 

May God have called you to a more extensive work

 

And stay where you are as long as you can stay; but do not resist when He casts you into His harvest. I cannot doubt in the least that God has called you to a more extensive work

 

To John Valton

DUBLIN, March 23, 1769,

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- Surely the Lord is preparing you for a more extensive work, and showing you that He can and will give you a mouth. Be careful not to get attached to any person or thing. I God is a jealous God. And stay where you are as long as you can stay; but do not resist when He casts you into His harvest. I cannot doubt in the least that God has called you to a more extensive work. [See the March 1 letter to him.] He gave you a sincerity of that in Stroud; and your weakness of soul or body is no obstacle to Him. Let Him remove it when and how He wills. But I doubt the time; It seems that he has not yet arrived fully present. At present, you must do all you can where you are, and always be listening to His voice and waiting until He clears the way before your face.--I am

Your affectionate brother.       [21]

 

He's now calling you

 

It really seems that He is now calling you. When I last wrote, you didn't want to leave; and probably now He is casting you into the harvest.

 

To John Valton

LONDON, November 21, 1769.

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- It is a wonderful thing to be open to God's call. It really seems that He is now calling you. When I last wrote, you didn't want to leave; and probably now He is casting you into the harvest. If so, be careful not to disobey the heavenly calling. Otherwise, you may be allowed to fall lower than you think.--I'm

Your affectionate brother. [22]

 

Your disabilities are not a limit

 

I believe you will take it easy. Their incapacities are not a limit; for when you are sent, you will not be sent to war at your own expense. Now improve the present time where you are.

 

To John Valton

LONDON, December 2, 1769.

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- Surely you have not been called to leave now. I believe you will take it easy. Their incapacities are not a limit; for when you are sent, you will not be sent to war at your own expense. Now improve the present time where you are. [See letter of November 21. 'This letter,' says Valton, 'was as pleasant as the grapes of Eshcol to my soul.']--I am

Your affectionate brother. [23]

 

A revival of God's work is usually a consequence

 

In every place there is a remarkable blessing in the prayer meetings. A revival of God's work is usually a consequence of them.

 

To John Valton

 NORWICH, November 12, 1771.

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- Many of our brethren began to help their neighbors in the principles of Primitive Physics. At first, they prescribed only simple things, and God blessed their labors. But they rarely continued as they began; They have become increasingly complex in their prescriptions. Beware of this; Keep it simple. One thing will almost always be better than two.

I think there's a small snippet of the kind you mentioned among those donated by the Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge. If so, I can easily sum it up in a penny brochure. Dr. Tissot wrote for Swiss constitutions: we must consider English, which is generally less robust.

In every place there is a remarkable blessing in the prayer meetings. A revival of God's work is usually a consequence of them. The most common fault among Methodists is that they are overly expressed in religion. We are constantly forgetting that the kingdom of God is within us, and that our fundamental principle is: We are saved by faith, producing all inward holiness, not by works, by any outward factors in any way. "I am

Your affectionate brother.

To Mr. John Valton, in Purfleet. [24]

 

Your Own Conscience Directed by God's Word

 

In every class you can have but one rule: your own conscience directed by the Word of God. Two or three dozen of the Children's Instructions (better than any spelling book) and the Children's Tokens you can use.

 

To John Valton

LONDON, February 23, 1773.

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- In every class you can have but one rule: your own conscience directed by the Word of God. Two or three dozen of the Children's Instructions (better than any spelling book) and the Children's Tokens you can use. It would be extremely correct to receive a little of your patients for the support of the school. If the chalk workers do not come to listen, I advise them to suspend preaching among themselves for a month or two (possibly this may have a good effect). Do this so that you have that time for yourself. May it be sacred! Do not use part of it other than private exercises. Hold on to the, beginning from this time, and your soul will revive.--I am

Your affectionate brother.

To John Valton, in Purfleet. [25]

 

Take a journey of a thousand miles first

 

Humanly speaking, this would be the case for you if you had married during your current state of health. I think you should, anyway, make a journey of a thousand miles first

 

To John Valton

BRISTOL, September 18, 1773.

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- When Dr. Monkley attended to that good man Mr. Colley [Benjamin Colley, a native of Tollerton, Yorkshire. He joined the Methodists in 1761. See the letters of May 2, 1767 and October 13, 1784 (to Valton)] in his consumptive disorder, he said one day, 'I cannot imagine how none of my remedies have any effect.' After pausing, he asked one of those next to him, 'Has this gentleman recently married?' And she said, 'About four months ago,' he said, 'So he's dead.'

Find Sam. Lelick, in Dublin, with a tuberculous habit, married for some months, advised him to leave his wife there and ride with me through the kingdom. But she persuaded him to stay with her; as a consequence of this, a few months later, she buried him [See letter of January 12 to Alexander Clark].

Humanly speaking, this would be the case for you if you had married during your current state of health. I think you should, anyway, go on a thousand-mile journey first.--I'm

Your affectionate brother.

To Mr. Valton, in Purfleet, Essex. [26]

 

Come take over the books in London

 

Now I have another proposal to make to you, which requires someone with an honest heart and a lot of dedication. Come take over the books in London. I think that would take you six or seven hours a day. And you would have the opportunity to preach every Sunday and (if you like) often during the week.

 

To John Valton

BRISTOL, September 20, 1773.

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- My first advice to you was: Preach the gospel everywhere. But you cringed. Now I have another proposal to make to you, which requires someone with an honest heart and a lot of dedication. Come take over the books in London. I think that would take you six or seven hours a day. And you would have the opportunity to preach every Sunday and (if you like) often during the week. I would give you twenty-five pounds a year with your board and a room at the Foundation, or fifty pounds without it. If you want to accept, send me a message immediately, and we can talk, Dad. I won't talk to anyone else until I hear from you.--I'm

Your affectionate brother.

To Mr. Valton, At Purfleet, Essex. [27]

 

Unskilled preachers

 

I'm in no hurry to change. I probably won't do anything else until I get to London. You were present at the Conference and heard what was said about unqualified preachers.

 

To John Valton

BRADFORD (ABOUT AVON), September 29, 1773.

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- All is well. People volunteer for the place [To take charge of Wesley's Book Room in London. Look at the letters of September 20 and October 20] who know that it is much easier than that of a merchant's clerk. I'm in no hurry to change. I probably won't do anything else until I get to London. You were present at the Conference and heard what was said about unqualified preachers. I think Rd. Packer [Richard Packer came to London from Northamptonshire, was converted to Foundy, and became a prosperous builder at Mile End. See Stevenson's Town Road Chapel, pp. 477-8] is as weak as most. Still, he has often been helpful; and, what's stranger, in a lot of places they like him-- I'm

Your affectionate brother.

I hope to be in town tonight. [28]

 

It looks like you'll be called to marry

 

If you get promoted, and if you regain your health (and where you should ride every day), then it looks like you'll be called to marry

 

To John Valton

WITNEY, October 20, 1773.

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- Considering all the circumstances, I think you put the matter on the right ground. If you are promoted, and if you regain your health (and where you must ride every day), then it looks as if you will be called to marry [See September 18 letter to him]--I am

Your affectionate brother. [29]

 

Go in His name and in the power of His power

 

Go in His name and in the power of His power. Exhort all men to believe in him now, and all believers now to grasp the prize, to seek Christ in a pure and sinless heart

 

To John Valton

DEPTFORD, November 20, 1775.

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- We had almost no frost last winter; Maybe you don't have anything else to go out with. I'm usually more bothered by the cold of November than by what comes after Christmas. But, be that as it may, our wisdom is not to think about anything the next day. And with every temptation that comes today, there's a way to escape. You are just in your place, doing and suffering the will of your Lord in the way He has called you. Go in His name and in the power of His power. Exhort all men to believe in him now, and all believers now to grasp the prize, to seek Christ in a pure and sinless heart—I am

Your affectionate brother. [30]

 

 

You are called to another part of the vineyard

 

It wouldn't be appropriate for you to spend another year at the Gloucester-shire Circuit. You are called to another part of the vineyard; and God does all things well

 

 

To John Valton

LONDON, February 25, 1778.

MY DEAR BROTHER, - You would do well to have a cup of nettle decoction every morning and observe which food suits you best. Get used to the outdoors by going more or less every day when it doesn't rain. It wouldn't be appropriate for you to spend another year at the Gloucester-shire Circuit. You are called to another part of the vineyard; and God does all things well. - I'm

Your affectionate brother.

To Mr. Valton, at Methodist

Preaching house in Worcester. [31] 

 

An ill-advised step led to darkness

 

FROM THAT ILL-ADVISED STEP OF POOR BROTHER M'Nab came smoke from the bottomless pit, which darkened and bled the minds of many as well as his own, filling them with unnecessary doubts and fears. I'm glad you came out of this darkness, and I hope you don't feel that anymore.

 

To John Valton

LONDON, February 9, 1780.

MY DEAR BROTHER, FROM THAT ILL-ADVISED STEP OF POOR BROTHER M'Nab's came smoke from the bottomless pit, which darkened and bled the minds of many as well as yours, filling them with unnecessary doubts and fears. I'm glad you came out of this darkness, and I hope you don't feel that anymore. I also hope that those in Bath who sinned deeply on occasion will now humble themselves before God; and I trust that He will enable you to do much more good than you have already done in Bath, as well as in Bristol. I hope to be in Bath on Tuesday, the 29th of the present moment, and in Bristol a day or two later. But I cannot and do not dare to allow them to be leaders who will not deign to participate in the preaching. On Monday, March 13, I hope to be in Stroud; on Tuesday at noon in Tewkesbury, Tuesday evening in Worcester. Take care not to preach more than your health allows.

You must not offer murder for sacrifice. Please send my affectionate greetings to Sister Newman, whom I thank for the letter, and I hope to see you in Stroud or Tewkesbury, if it is convenient for her. - I'm

Your affectionate friend and brother. [32]

 

Wish you'd take on another burden for yourself

 

I wanted you to take on another burden for yourself. Alternate one of the Primitive Physicks and insert as many cheap and simple remedies into it as you want

 

To John Valton

PARKGATE, April 21, 1780.

MY DEAR BROTHER,—I send you here with one of our Lord's jewels, my dear Miss Helena. Ritchie; Someone you've barely seen before. But, alas! It seems that she has little time to stay here, unless the journey causes her to consume. Miss Marshall, your friend, is really an Israelite. You will help them as much as you can; and I doubt Sister Maddern will either. In fact, they are worthy.

I hope you're writing me an excerpt from your Diary. [See the February 9 and October 1 letters to him.] I wanted you to take on another burden for yourself. Alternate one of the Primitive Physicks and insert as many cheap and simple remedies into it as you like. "I'm

Your affectionate friend and brother.

To Mr. Valton, in the new room, in Bristol. [33]


Despite the shame and natural shyness

 

You know what to omit and what to put in. I really think you owe it (despite the shame and natural shyness) to God, to me, and to your brothers. Pray for light on this subject

 

To John Valton

BRISTOL, October 1, 1780,

MY DEAR BROTHER,-I expected the state of the Manchester Circuit to be exactly as you found it. But the power of the Lord can heal them. I fear that Sister Mayer became unemployed because she loved perfection. If you find a few more of the same spirit, I believe you will get them jobs. Accommodations everywhere will heal if preachers make a loving effort. I'm glad you put a little effort into the new chapel. Our brother Brocklehurst will do anything reasonable.

On one thing, only you and I do not agree; but perhaps we will, when we have prayed over her: I mean that she give me an excerpt from her Life [See letters of April 21 and December 19]. I cannot see the weight of your motives against it. 'Some are shallow.' What then All are not; Especially those of Brother Mather and Haime. Add one to those; A heavier one, if you can. You know what to omit and what to put in. I really think you owe it (despite the shame and natural shyness) to God, to me, and to your brothers. Pray for light on this subject.--I am

Your affectionate friend and brother.

To Mr. Valton, at the preaching house, Manchester. [34]

 

To give you the freedom to spend a little time wherever God's work requires it

 

The third preacher was added for just that purpose, to give him the freedom to spend a little time wherever God's work requires it

 

To John Valton

LONDON, December 31, 1780,

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- The third preacher has been added for just this purpose, to give him the liberty to spend a little time wherever the work of God requires it [The appointment in the Minutes is, 'John Valton, George Snowden'; in 1781 Alexander M'Nab is the third preacher.] You have entirely omitted an article in the plan (See letter of February 16th)—the new members: of these, I suppose, you will give me an account in a moment, I doubt, but you can give me a good description of all except—the rich members: perhaps of some of these also; for it is on this particular occasion that our Lord says, 'With God all things are possible.'--I am

Your affectionate friend and brother.

If you can spread the magazines, you'll do good. The letters contained therein contain the marrow of Christianity. .[35]

 

Men and women are already separated in the chapel

 

As I have already done. has begun, since men and women are already separated in the chapel of Manchester, I ask Brother Brocklehurst and you will resolutely continue this separation. This is a Methodist rule

 

To John Valton

WARRINGTON, April 9, 1781.

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- As I have already done. began, since men and women are already separated in the chapel of Manchester, I request Brother Brocklehurst [See letter of October 1, 1780 to Valton.] and you will resolutely continue this separation. This is a Methodist rule, not based on whims, but on a clear and solid reason; and this has been observed in Manchester for several years: in general, we have lost nothing for it either. By admitting the contrary practice, by mixing men and women, you would exclude me from the house; for if I enter into a Methodist preaching in that case, I must immediately leave again. But I hope that never happens; I think you have more consideration for

Your affectionate friend and brother.

To Mr. Valton, in the Preaching House,

Manchester.

In his absence to be delivered to Mr.

Brocklehurst. [36]

 

Better forty members should be lost than our lost discipline

 

Better forty members must be lost than our lost discipline. They are not Methodists who cannot stand restrictions. Explain this in a general way to Society

 

To John Valton

LONDON, January 18, 1782.

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- I received the first two leaves of your life. Don't be afraid to write too much; I can easily leave out what can be saved. It pleased God to guide John Haime and you a long way through the desert. Others He leads by a shorter and smoother path; And yet to the same point: for we must not imagine that such a degree of suffering is necessary to any degree of holiness. In this respect, God certainly acts as a Sovereign; giving what He wants, and by what means He wants. I believe that the holiest man who ever lived was the Apostle John; Still, it seems to have suffered very little.

You must take care never to write for too long, and always to write standing up; Never, in any way, support yourself on your stomach. God gives me exactly the strength I had thirty years ago. I cannot allow John Sellars [See letter of January 7.] to continue to be a leader; and if he leads the class, whether I like it or not, I demand that you expel him from our Society. If twenty of their class are also going to leave the Society, they should leave. The first defeat is the best. Better forty members must be lost than our lost discipline. They are not Methodists who cannot stand restrictions. Explain this in a general way to the Society. -- I am

Your affectionate friend and brother. [37]

 

I say No again

 

Whether the trustees should place and replace preachers (This is the essential question.) I say No again; otherwise, intolerable consequences will come

 

To John Valton

LONDON, January 16, 1783.

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- Here are two questions: (1) If I have acted rightly, I answer, No. I should have resolutely resisted all insistence. (2) Whether the trustees [See letter of December 3, 1782.] should place and substitute preachers (This is the essential question.) I say No again; otherwise, intolerable consequences will come. -- I am

Your affectionate friend and brother.

Please send my regards to George Brown and tell him that I have his letter. [38]

 

Some specific end drawn in every extraordinary work of God

 

There must be some specific end designed in every extraordinary work of God. But there are cases in which it takes a considerable time before this end appears

 

To John Valton

LONDON, January 22, 1783.

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- It is right to add as much solemnity as possible to the admission of new members.

I think you can refer the butcher's wife's case to the leaders. 'Not selling' would certainly be the best way. But whether she should be expelled for this reason may be a matter of doubt.

There must be some specific end designed in every extraordinary work of God. But there are cases where it takes a considerable amount of time for that end to appear. And it may be convenient to remain in suspense to wean ourselves from our own will and our own wisdom. If there was any particular meaning in this appearance, God will reveal it in due time. -- I am

Your affectionate friend and brother.

To Mr. Valton, in the preaching house, [39]

 

Your reasons for wanting to spend another year at the Birstall Circuit

 

His reasons for desiring to spend another year at the Birstall Circuit [He was reappointed to Birstall in 1783.] seem to me to be well-founded. This may be so, if nothing happens to the contrary between the Conference and the Conference.

 

To John Valton

NOTTINGHAM, April 4, 1783.

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- Being more than half recovered from my late illness, [See letters of March 16 and April 4.] I'm moving slowly on my way. I intend to stay here until Sunday; then I think about heading towards Dublin.

His reasons for desiring to spend another year at the Birstall Circuit [He was reappointed to Birstall in 1783.] seem to me to be well-founded. This may be so, if nothing happens to the contrary between the Conference and the Conference. -- I am

Your affectionate friend and brother.

To Mr. Valton, in Birstall, near

Leeds. [40]

 

 

Our fasting will have many positive effects

 

I believe that our fasting will bring many positive effects. Many have found reasons to bless God because of this 



Para John Valton

LONDON, June 5, 1783.

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- What Birstall's assistants (even Thomas Taylor [Taylor was assistant at Bitstall in 1778]) have done these seven years

I believe that our fasting will bring many positive effects. Many have found reasons to bless God because of this.

Sister Rogers [Mrs. Rogers died in 1784. Her husband married Hester Ann Roe in the same year. See the letter of May 5, 1784.] It's a jewel of a woman. She has all the spirit of her husband and desires nothing more than to do and suffer the will of God.

These trustees [In Birstall. See letter of November 9, 1782.] they are wonderfully reckless. Are they afraid that their children will think the same way they do? I would not leave a preaching house for my executioners all over the world. However, do what you think is best.

Your affectionate friend and brother.

But your life! I want your life. [See the letter of January 18, 1782, where Wesley acknowledges receipt of the first part of the autobiography.] [41]

 

Christ sent them not to baptize, but to preach the gospel

 

I will have no objection to Mr. Taylor if he does not baptize infants; but I dare not suffer this. I shall soon be obliged to dismiss all preachers who do not abandon this. Christ sent them not to baptize, but to preach the gospel.

 

To John Valton

LONDON, January 6, 1784.

MY DEAR BROTHER, - I don't think the water of Bristol would have done you much good; but exercise and change of air would do. I do not know Dr. Davison [See letter of October 13 to Valton.]; but I've seen (maybe three times) more patients than him. And I know many who have died from swallowing large amounts of powdered wood. Beware of this, and you can live and do good.

I will have no objection to Mr. Taylor if he does not baptize infants; but I dare not suffer this. I shall soon be obliged to dismiss all preachers who do not abandon this. Christ sent them not to baptize, but to preach the gospel. [See letters of May 19, 1783 and March 4, 1784 (to Percival).] I wonder if any of them are so cruel as to try, knowing what I feel. We have already heard it twice from Dr. Coke. They all work well. - I'm

Your affectionate friend and brother. [42]

 

I believe it will be better for you to be in Scarborough

 

I believe it will be better for you to be in Scarborough, because many are alive there, and scarcely none in Bridlington. John Alien may stay at Birstall for another year

 

To John Valton

YORK, June 25, 1784.

MY DEAR BROTHER, "I only make time to write one line. I hope to be in Dawgreen on the 17th of July at half past six o'clock, in Birstall on Sunday and Monday the 19th in the morning. [Preached at Bingley on July 18 in the morning and afternoon; at Dawgreen, where a new chapel was to be built, on the 24th; at Bitstall 'for several thousands' on Sunday, the 25th.]

I believe it will be better for you to be in Scarborough, because many are alive there, and scarcely none in Bridlington. John Alien may stay at Birstall for another year. [Valton was appointed to Bradford, and Alien remained at Bitstall.] Peace be with you all! - I'm

Your affectionate friend and brother. [43]

 

The sea of love is enough to lift

 

Consider, a person who was very happy and good is now less happy than he was. So he thinks, 'I should be happier if I were married.' It's not that feeling

The sea of love is enough to lift

 

To John Valton

BRISTOL, September 5, 1785.

MY DEAR BROTHER, - Neither Sister Brisco nor her husband ever asked me for money. From time to time I gave her a guinea; but, I think, never more than once. We could not give more regularly to the son; but I would give her five pounds for a spoken word. Now she has to work hard to get it. [Thomas Brisco was stationed in Thirsk and was evidently facing financial difficulties.]

Our preachers (I mean many of them) still fail to judge and underestimate each other. Henry Foster is a weak man, but by no means a weak preacher. This has never been challenged to him before at any circuit where I have followed him. He is a solid, judicious man of deep piety.

I'm thinking that her best way is, if someone gives T. Brisco five guineas, I'll reciprocate.

Consider, a person who was very happy and good is now less happy than he was. So he thinks, 'I should be happier if I were married.' It's not that feeling

The sea of love is enough to lift

With drops of creature happiness [Poetical Works, i. 132.]

I am

Your affectionate friend and brother.

To Mr. Valton, at Captain Robinson's house,

On Bridlington Key, Yorkshire. [44]

 

Strictly insist that each one meet their class weekly

 

You should also strictly insist that each one meets his class weekly, without some very peculiar obstacle

 

To John Valton

LONDON, January 29, 1790.

MY DEAR BROTHER, -- Where you and Adam Clarke are, it would be strange if there were not a rebirth. You do well to prune the circuit, and I advise you to cut off all those (unless they are exceedingly poor) who do not, as per our original rule, contribute a shilling every quarter, and a penny once a week. Many members you will lose for this; But our gain will be greater than our loss. You should also strictly insist that each one meet his class weekly, without some very peculiar obstacle. I am glad that you have made a catalogue of the Society, as required by the Conference Minutes. According to this catalog, classes must always be complied with so that all can be evaluated exactly. If God pleases me to attend another conference in Bristol, I should spend a day or two at his house willingly. Peace be with your spirit! -- I am

Your affectionate friend and brother. [45]

 

 

 



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[3] "Decoction is an extraction method in which more rigid plant fragments are boiled in water for a set time" (Google AI Mode Overview).

[4] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1778/

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[6] Overview of google AI mode

[7] Overview of google AI mode

[8] Overview of google AI mode

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[13] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1780/

[14] Overview of google AI mode

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[16] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1789/

[17] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1790/

[18] Overview of google AI mode

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[23] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1769/

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[25] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1773/

[26] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1773/

[27] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1773/

[28] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1773/

[29] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1773/

[30] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1775/

[31] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1778/

[32] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1780/

[33] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1780/

[34] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1780/

[35] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1780/

[36] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1781/

[37] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1782/

[38] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1783/

[39] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1783/

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[41] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1783/

[42] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1784/

[43] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1784/

[44] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1785/

[45] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1790/

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