If they had listened to Wesley

 

Wesley's Pastoral Letters to Methodist Leaders

 

Odilon Massolar Chaves

 

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Odilon Massolar Chaves is a retired Methodist pastor, with a doctorate in Theology and History from the Methodist University of São Paulo.

Son of Rev. Adherico Ribeiro Chaves and Roza Massolar Chaves.

He is married to RoseMary.

He has two daughters: Liliana and Luciana.

His thesis dealt with the Methodist revival in England in the eighteenth century and its contribution as a paradigm for our days.

  

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Table of Contents  

 

·       Introduction

·       Is reasoning when you should be praying

·       As a local or itinerant preacher, I hope he will be helpful

·       To save both your own soul and those who will listen to you

·       Let there be the most unlimited religious freedom

·       If you will allow me to give any help that is in my power

·       If you love them

·       Do not welcome new members until they have read the Society's rules

·       Requests for Wesley to be the leader

·       The well-meaning one who went to great lengths to overthrow a woman leader

·       It is worth living to witness to the gospel of God's grace

·       You can't have physical health without daily outdoor exercise

·       All we can do is not have smugglers in our Societies

·       If you pick up your cross

·       There was so much danger of our clergy dominating the laity

·       An ill-advised step led to darkness

·       Until that happens, everything else is off target

·       Nothing wrong with the private union of spirit

·       A continual care to reclaim every image of God in which you were created

·       Leaflet for French prisoners

·       That you may be part of His holiness

·       The good fruit of this already appears in his deliverance from that troubled man

·       Many people would meet a female leader who would not meet a man

·       You must think and let think

·       If you do not live in known sin, admit it into Society

·       If we are zealous and active, our Societies will increase

·       When a preacher travels without his wife, he is exposed to numerous temptations

 

 

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Introduction

 

"If They Had Listened to Wesley" is a 34-page book about some of Wesley's pastoral letters to Methodist leaders written in 1780, especially between the months of January and March.

Wesley's counsel to Methodist leaders was wise to resolve issues related to preaching houses and bands and for Methodism to continue moving forward in a balanced and strong way under the action of the Holy Spirit based on doctrines with biblical foundations.

Wesley was also concerned with the well-being of leaders.

Some leaders did not follow his directions and thus had greater difficulties or were unable to move forward. Throughout the history of Methodism the same has happened or has happened bringing difficulties to the Church.

Wesley believed that God raised up the Methodist people, especially to be instruments of transformation and to spread biblical holiness. And so it must continue, if we are to continue within the purpose of God and the vision of Wesley.

And, in fact, little of this has happened.

In this book, we publish some letters to which we have given titles and we highlight them here:

·       Is reasoning when you should be praying

·       To save both your own soul and those who will listen to you

·       Let there be the most unlimited religious freedom

·       If you love them

·       Do not welcome new members until they have read the Society's rules

·       It is worth living to witness to the gospel of God's grace

·       All we can do is not have smugglers in our Societies

·       If you pick up your cross

·       There was so much danger of our clergy dominating the laity

·       A continual care to reclaim every image of God in which you were created

·       That you may be part of His holiness

·       Many people would meet a female leader who would not meet a man

·       You must think and let think

·       If you do not live in known sin, admit it into Society

·       If we are zealous and active, our Societies will increase

·       When a preacher travels without his wife, he is exposed to numerous temptations.

These titles do not represent the whole of Wesley's counsels and direction, but serve to give us a dimension of his vision for the leaders and the Church.

 

The Author

 

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Is reasoning when you should be praying

 

You are really out of your place, for you are reasoning when you should be praying

 

To Mr. --

[1780.]

DEAR BROTHER, --You are really out of your place, for you are reasoning when you ought to be praying. - I'm

Your affectionate brother.

 

Hold on to Him Like a Child

 

Do not reason, but believe! Hold on to Him like a child, and your eyes will see complete salvation

 

For Mrs. Rose

MY DEAR SISTER, - It pleased God to try you for many years in the furnace of affliction. But He has always been with you in the fire, so that you would be cleansed, not consumed. Therefore, you have good reason to trust Him. Do not reason, but believe! Hold on to Him like a child, and your eyes will see complete salvation. - I'm

Your affectionate brother.

 

As a local or itinerant preacher, I hope he will be helpful

 

You can hire him as both a local preacher and an itinerant preacher. I hope it is useful

 

For Mrs. Eliz. Rose, in Sheffield.

To Thomas Carlill

LONDON, January 6, 1780.

DEAR TOMMY, - I have received a very good letter from William Gill, [Gill had been tried in 1778. His name does not appear in the 1780 minutes. See letter of March 2, 1782.] who doesn't seem to have been very guilty. Therefore, I leave it entirely to you. You can hire him as both a local preacher and an itinerant preacher. I hope it will be useful; and I am, dear Tommy,

Your affectionate friend and brother.

 

To save both your own soul and those who will listen to you

 

Every quarter you should send me a plan of your circuits. Then we can see if we increase or decrease. Stay tuned! Be zealous! Then you will save both your own soul and those who will listen to you

 

To Mr. Carlill, at Mrs. Cumberland's house,

Near Lisburn, Ireland.

To William Church

LONDON, January 6, 1780.

DEAR BILLY, "Every quarter you must send me a plan of your circuits. Then we can see if we increase or decrease. Stay tuned! Be zealous! Then you will save both your own soul and those who will listen to you. I send a potion on Mr. Pawson. [Mrs. Church received her pension from the Society in Bristol, of which Pawson was assistant in 1780. The rest of the letter was cut and given as an autograph.] . . .

 

Let there be the most unlimited religious freedom

 

With persecution I have nothing to do. I do not persecute a man for his religious principles. Let there be 'the most unlimited religious freedom' that any man can conceive

 

To Mr. Will. Church, in Mr. John

Church, in Brecon.

To the Printer of the 'Public Advertiser' [3]

CITY ROAD, January 12, 1780.

LORD,—Some time ago a pamphlet was sent to me entitled An Appeal of the Protestant Association to the People of Great Britain. A day or two later, a sort of answer to this was put into my hand, which declares 'his contemptible style, his useless reasoning, and his malicious object.' On the contrary, I think the style is clear, easy and natural; the reasoning, in general, strong and conclusive; the object, or design, kind and benevolent. And in pursuit of the same kind and benevolent design, namely, to preserve our happy constitution, I shall try to confirm the contents of this treaty by a few clear arguments.

With persecution I have nothing to do. I do not persecute a man for his religious principles. Let there be 'the most unlimited religious liberty' that any man can conceive. But that doesn't hit the point; I will leave religion, true or false, completely out of the question. Suppose the Bible, please, is a fable and the Quran is the word of God. I do not consider whether the Roman religion is true or false; I don't build anything based on one or another assumption. So put an end to all your ordinary declamations about bigotry and persecution in religion! Suppose every word of Pope Pius' Creed is true; suppose that the Council of Trent was infallible; Still, I insist that no government, not Roman Catholic, should tolerate men of Roman Catholic conviction.

I prove this with a simple argument (let him answer that he can). That no Roman Catholic gives or can give security for his loyalty or peaceful behaviour, I prove thus: it is a Roman Catholic maxim, established not by private men, but by a public council, that 'no faith should be maintained with heretics.' This was openly declared by the Council of Constance; but it was never openly denied. Whether private persons reject it or not, it is a fixed maxim of the Church of Rome. But so long as this is so, nothing can be clearer than that the members of that Church can give no reasonable assurance to any government of their loyalty or peaceful behavior. Therefore, they are not to be tolerated by any government, Protestant, Mahometan, or pagan.

You may say, 'No, but they will swear an oath of allegiance.' Truth, five hundred oaths; but the saying 'No faith should be kept with heretics' sweeps them all away like a spider's web. So, still, no governor who is not a Roman Catholic can have any assurance of his loyalty.

Again, those who acknowledge the spiritual power of the Pope cannot give assurance of their allegiance to any government: but all Roman Catholics acknowledge this; therefore, they cannot guarantee their loyalty.

The power to grant pardons for all sins, past, present, and future, is, and has been for many centuries, a branch of his spiritual power. But those who acknowledge that he possesses this spiritual power cannot give security to his loyalty; for they believe that the Pope can forgive rebellions, high treason, and all other sins of any kind.

The power to dispense with any promise, oath, or vow is another branch of the Pope's spiritual power. And everyone who recognizes his spiritual power must recognize this. But those who recognize the dispensing power of the Pope cannot guarantee their loyalty to any government. Oaths and promises do not exist; they are light as air; a dispensation renders all of them null and void.

No, not only the Pope, but even a priest has the power to forgive sins! This is an essential doctrine of the Church of Rome. But those who recognize this cannot give any guarantee for their loyalty to any government. Oaths are no guarantee; for the priest can pardon both perjury and high treason.

Leaving aside religion, then, it is clear that, on the principles of reason, no Government should tolerate men who cannot give any guarantee to that Government by their loyalty and peaceful behaviour. But this no Romanist can do, not only so long as he maintains that 'no faith is to be kept with heretics,' but so long as he acknowledges priestly absolution or the spiritual power of the Pope.

'But the late law,' you say, 'does not tolerate or encourage Roman Catholics.' I resort to naturalness. Do not the Romanists themselves understand this as a tolerance? You know you do. And does this already (how much more what it can do in a little while) encourage them to preach openly, to build chapels (in Bath and elsewhere), to set up seminaries, and to convert innumerable day by day their intolerant and persecuting principles? I can point out, if necessary, several of these people. And they are increasing every day.

But 'nothing dangerous to English liberty must be apprehended from them.' I'm not sure about that. Some time ago, a Roman priest came to one I knew [Elizabeth Duchesne. See the letter of October 27, 1758.]; and, after talking to her at length, he exclaimed: 'You are not a heretic! You have the experience of a true Christian!' 'And you,' she asked, 'would burn me alive.' He said, 'God forbid! unless it was for the good of the Church!'

Now, what security could she have had for her life, if it had depended on that man? The good of the Church would have broken all the bonds of truth, justice and mercy; especially when supported by the absolution of a priest, or (if necessary) by a papal pardon.

If someone wants to answer and indicate your name, I will probably answer; But the productions of anonymous writers I do not promise to pay attention to. - I am, sir,

Your humble servant.

 

If you will allow me to give any help that is in my power

 

If I could be mad at my dear Nancy for anything, I should be mad at you for not using me as a friend. If you believe so, why don't you tell me without reservation when there is something I can serve you in? You can judge for yourself if it doesn't give me any particular satisfaction. So it will always be if you allow me to give whatever help I can.

 

To Ann Bolton

LONDON, January 14, 1780.

If I could be mad at my dear Nancy for anything, I should be mad at you for not using me as a friend. If you believe so, why don't you tell me without reservation when there is something I can serve you in? You can judge for yourself if it doesn't give me any particular satisfaction. So it will always be if you allow me to give whatever help I can.

What you say about feeling God's peace in the midst of the most exquisite sufferings does not surprise me in the least. [See the February 26 letter to her.] 'I feel my pains,' says M. De Renty, 'in all its extremity. But by the grace of God I give myself to Him and not to them.' And again: 'I cannot say, but my soul is deeply saddened by the feeling of so great a loss; yet I feel such joy that the Lord's will is done, not that of a poor sinner, that, if it were not for offending, I might dance and sing.'

I saw a stranger case than any of these a few years ago. I saw exactly the suffering on a human face like that which appears in the wax taken from the face of Cartouche [Louis Dominique Cartouche, head of a Parisian band of thieves, broken on the wheel in 1721.] as he dismounted on the wheel. In the morning I asked, 'Were you not in great distress when I saw you last night?' She replied, 'I was in such distress that I was about to tear my soul and body; and yet, at that very time, I was as happy as I could be from heaven.' I am not surprised, therefore, that all the trials you feel do not interrupt the peace of God. They never have to. His grace is sufficient to keep you in, and to deliver you from all temptations. And the anointing of the Holy One who remains with you will guide you from time to time and allow all the fiery darts of the wicked to return to the east over your head.

Still love me, my dear Nancy, and know me as I am

Its invariably.

 

If you love them

 

On February 6th, you can expect a preacher from here. Tell itinerant preachers everything you think or hear about them, if you love them

 

To Abraham Brames

LONDON, January 16, 1780.

MY DEAR BROTHER, - You have done an exceptional job in putting this little collection on foot. [See letter of December 12, 1779.] I trust that you will be productive very well. On February 6th, you can expect a preacher from here. Tell the itinerant preachers everything you think or hear about them, whether you love them or...

Your affectionate brother.

To Mr. Abr. Brames, in the Preaching.

house, in Rochester.

 

Do not welcome new members until they have read the Society's rules

 

I realize that many on your circuit don't know our Rules. You must read them immediately in all Societies and not receive new members until he has read them. Let everyone know what it's all about.

 

For Lancelot Harrison

LONDON, January 16, 1780.

MY DEAR BROTHER, - I realize that many in your circuit do not know our Rules. You must read them immediately in all Societies and not receive new members until he has read them. Let everyone know what it's all about.

A Circuit Plan should contain (1) the various Societies, (2) the number of members in each, (3) the new members, (4) those in a position of retreat, (5) the people in the band. Then, the conversions, deaths, marriages, removals, with the total number at the end of each column. Let me have that plan next quarter. [See letter of February 16.]

You did well to recommend the Hymnals, and you will do even better by taking every opportunity to recommend the Magazine. [See letter of January 29.]

Be zealous! Be active! Awaken the gift of God that is in you! - I'm

Your affectionate friend and brother.

 

Requests for Wesley to be the leader

 

It pleased me to that they desired me as a favor so that I could guide them in everything. After my return from Georgia, many were both awakened and converted to God. One, another, and another of them desired to join me as children in the gospel, to be led by me.

 

To Mr. L. Harrison, at Dr. Kershaw's house,

In Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.

To Thomas Taylor ()

LONDON, January 1780.

MY DEAR BROTHER, - It seems that you have not well considered the Rules of an Helper or the rise of Methodism. It pleased me to that they desired me as a favor so that I could guide them in everything. After my return from Georgia, many were both awakened and converted to God. One, another, and another of them desired to join me as children in the gospel, to be led by me. I drew up some simple rules (note, there was no Conference in existence!) and allowed them to join me under these conditions. Therefore, whoever violates the conditions, especially that of being directed by me in the work, ipso facto disengages himself from me. This Brother M'Nab has done (but he cannot see that he has done anything wrong); And he wanted it to be common cause—that is, for all preachers to do the same. He thinks that 'they have the right to do this.' And they do. They have the right to part with me whenever they want. But they cannot, by the nature of the thing, unite with me any longer than they are directed by me. What if fifty of today's preachers were to break up! What would I lose like this? Just a lot of work and care, which I don't seek, but endure, because no one else can or wants to.

You also seem to have a very wrong idea of a Conference. For more than six years after my return to England, this did not exist. So I wished that some of our preachers would find me, to counsel me, not to control me. And you can see that they had no power except what I exercised through them. I chose to exercise the power God gave me in this way, both to avoid ostentation and to gently habituate people to obey them when I was taken out of their heads. But as long as I remain with them, the fundamental rule of Methodism remains inviolable. As long as any preacher joins me, he must be guided by me in his work. Do you not see, then, that Brother M'Nab, whatever his intentions, acted as wrong as possible, and that the representation of this as the common cause of the preachers was the way to common destruction, the way to turn all heads and put them in arms? It was a blow to the root of Methodism. Therefore, I could not do less than I did; It was the least that could be done, for fear that evil would spread.

I don't talk about these things voluntarily; But I do it now out of necessity, because I find that your mind and that of some others is a little hurt by not seeing them in a true way. - I'm

Your affectionate brother.

 

The well-meaning one who went to great lengths to overthrow a woman leader

 

Well-meaning Ryan went to great lengths to take you down when you first went to Latonstone. It would not have been strange if it had thrown you into many doubts and fears, since you believed that he was holier

 

For Ms. Crosby

LONDON, January 20, 1780.

MY DEAR SISTER,—I really imagine that doing more exercise than usual would increase, rather than harm, your health. That's the effect it had on everything I travelled with me through the north of Britain.

The richest of our brethren here do not conform to the world in dress. Our sisters too, and their daughters much more. I am often in doubt whether I should allow them to remain in our Society

Well-meaning Ryan went to great lengths to take you down when you first went to Latonstone. It would not have been strange if this had thrown you into many doubts and fears, since you believed that he was holier than you and a better judge of spiritual things. I know that by this means she disturbed several who tasted the pure Love of God. [See letters of December 3, 1769, June 28, and September 12, 1766.]

It's my project, if God continues with my health and strength, I'm going to Ireland this spring. You'll probably see me in the fall, if I survive. - Yes, I am, dear Sally,

With affection.

Note: Sarah Crosby (1729-1804) was a class leader and the first preacher authorized to preach by Wesley. Wesley said to him, "I don't see that you have broken any laws. Go slowly and firmly."

 

 

It is worth living to witness to the gospel of God's grace

 

I'm glad that God has pleased to restore your health, and that you've been using it to the best of your ability. It is worth living for this (and almost nothing for anything else), to witness to the gospel of God's grace

 

To Robert Carr Brackenbury

LONDON, January 23, 1780.

DEAR LORD,—I am glad that God has pleased to restore your health, and that you have used it to the best of it. It is worth living for this (and almost nothing for anything else), to witness the gospel of God's grace. You will find many around here who have ears and hearts to receive even the deep things of God. I believe that a trip to Ireland will be useful for your soul and body. Meet me at --, and we can decide our journeys. - It is I, dear sir,

Your very affectionate friend and brother.

 

You can't have physical health without daily outdoor exercise

 

 I cannot advise you, in the meantime, to lock yourself up at home; It's not good for your body or your mind. You can't have physical health without daily outdoor exercise; and you have no reason to expect the spirit of a healthy mind unless you use the means which God has ordained.

 

To Alexander Knox

NEAR LONDON, JANUARY 28, 1780.

DEAR ALLECK, - It will certainly be worth taking a test of this mineral water; it is highly probable that God will make it a means of diminishing, if not removing it, his bodily disturbance. I cannot question that this is largely scorpotic; as an almost constant symptom of scurvy is a great depression of the spirits.... I cannot advise you, in the meantime, to lock yourself up at home; It's not good for your body or your mind. You can't have physical health without daily outdoor exercise; and you have no reason to expect the spirit of a healthy mind unless you use the means which God has ordained. You know well that faith comes listening; Therefore, I advise you not to miss any opportunity to listen and trust God with the event. You probably won't be in a more uncomfortable state than you already are. And what is the greater evil of the two, even assuming the worst? Surely having two attacks is less bad than missing fifty precious opportunities. O break this fear, which is only a trap of the devil. I commend you and yours to Him who is ready to save you in soul and body; and I am, dear Alleck,

With affection.

For William Tunney

 

All we can do is not have smugglers in our Societies

 

All we can do is not have smugglers in our Societies and I think Brother Condy will convince many of them of the advantage of meeting in the band.

 

LONDON, January 29, 1780.

DEAR BILLY, - You did a good job with the Free Anthem. But in the meantime, don't forget the Magazine. [See Jan. 16 letter to Lancelot Harrison.] Take every opportunity to strongly recommend this, both in public and in private.

All we can do is not to have smugglers in our Societies [See letter of March 21, 1784.]; and I think Brother Condy will convince many of them of the advantage of being in the band. [William Tunney (who gave up traveling in 1781) and Richard Condy were colleagues in Cornwall East.]

O observe and pray that you do not fall into temptation! - Yes, I am, dear Billy,

With affection.

 

If you pick up your cross

 

If you take up your cross and visit all the Societies, whenever you have time, from house to house, your profits will appear to all men; and no one will be able to oppose you.

 

To Samuel Bardsley

LONDON, January 30, 1780.

DEAR SAMMY, "I am glad to know that your people love each other: then neither you nor you can hurt them." They can make a movement and noise for a season; But it will only be nine days of wonder. If you take up your cross and visit all the Societies, whenever you have time, from house to house, your profits will appear to all men; and no one will be able to oppose you. Be a little careful too, both Brother Shadford [George Shadford, his superintendent in Norwich.] and you, in recommending the Magazine. Stir her up for my sake and the preachers; And do what you do, do it with your strength. - Yes, I am, dear Sammy,

With affection.

P.S.-Everywhere, exhort believers to expect full salvation now by simple faith.

 

There was so much danger of our clergy dominating the laity

 

The honest Richard Condy was terrified; and no wonder he frightened others. There was as much danger of our clergy dominating the laity as there was of them devouring them entirely.

 

To Penelope Newman

LONDON, February 2, 1780.

MY DEAR SISTER, - The honest Richard Condy was terrified; And no wonder he scared others. There was as much danger of our clergy dominating the laity as there was of them devouring them entirely. But all this haste came from Alexander M'Nab. He let go of the water; And who will gather

Be careful not to kill John Valton [Valton was in Bristol. See Wesley's Veterans, vi. 78; and to M'Nab, letter of January 18.] I know: You know he's continually striving to do more than he can do. I suppose it's somewhere in your circuit; but he didn't tell me where: so that I wouldn't know how to direct him. I am a letter indebted to him.

You forgot that I do not visit our Societies this year. I only play here and there on the way to Ireland. On Monday, March 13, I hope to be in Straud, and then visit Tewkesbury, Worcester, Evesham, and Broadmarston. That's all I can do at the moment. - Yes, I am, my dear sister,

Your affectionate brother.

 

An ill-advised step led to darkness

 

FROM THAT ILL-ADVISED STEP OF POOR BROTHER M'Nab came smoke from the bottomless pit, which darkened and bled the minds of many as well as his own, filling them with unnecessary doubts and fears. I'm glad you came out of this darkness, and I hope you don't feel that anymore.

 

To John Valton

LONDON, February 9, 1780.

MY DEAR BROTHER, FROM THAT ILL-ADVISED STEP OF POOR BROTHER M'Nab's came smoke from the bottomless pit, which darkened and bled the minds of many as well as yours, filling them with unnecessary doubts and fears. I'm glad you came out of this darkness, and I hope you don't feel that anymore. I also hope that those in Bath who sinned deeply on occasion will now humble themselves before God; and I trust that He will enable you to do much more good than you have already done in Bath, as well as in Bristol. I hope to be in Bath on Tuesday, the 29th of the present moment, and in Bristol a day or two later. But I cannot and do not dare to allow them to be leaders who will not deign to participate in the preaching. On Monday, March 13, I hope to be in Stroud; on Tuesday at noon in Tewkesbury, Tuesday evening in Worcester. Take care not to preach more than your health allows.

You must not offer murder for sacrifice. Please send my affectionate greetings to Sister Newman, whom I thank for the letter, and I hope to see you in Stroud or Tewkesbury, if it is convenient for her. - I'm

Your affectionate friend and brother.

 

Until that happens, everything else is off target

 

You send a second reply, saying that you have been very diligent for many years; and that you were the one who introduced plans between us. Very good; But you still don't send me any plans, and until that happens, everything else is off target

 

For Christopher Hopper

NEAR LONDON, FEBRUARY 16, 1780.

MY DEAR BROTHER, - I do not know whether there is any question of dispute between us, except whether you should do as I wish or not. You are an assistant at the Colne circuit. I want you to send me a plan of the circuit: send me an answer, but without the plan. I write again: you send a second reply, saying that you have been very diligent for many years; and that you were the one who introduced plans between us. Very good; But you still don't send me any plans, and until that happens, everything else is off target. [See letters of January 16 (to Lancelot Harrison) and December 31.] - I'm

Your affectionate friend and brother.

Why wouldn't you write an account of your life [Hopper wasted no time. His autobiography was published in the Arminian Mag. from January to March 1781. See Wesley's Veterans, i. 107-74.]

Isaac Waldron, T. Lee, W. Brammah, etc., were not 'strong and capable men.' When any of these get in the way of easy circuits, speak up at that moment and do something.

Mr. Hopper, in the preaching house,

In Colne, Lancashire.

 

Nothing wrong with the private union of spirit

 

There is nothing strange about a private union of spirit between two people who truly fear God.

 

To Hannah Ball

DORKING, February 17, 1780.

MY DEAR SISTER, - There is nothing strange in a private union of spirit between two people who really fear God. [She had lost her old friend Samuel Wells. See the header of the letter of February 24, 1779, to her.] It is nothing unusual: in a few years I have already known many cases of this type. And I see no reason why this union should be destroyed by death: I cannot conceive that it is. I myself, since her death, have found a wonderful union of mind with Fanny Cooper [Miss Cooper]. Cooper, whom Wesley went to see at Donnington Park in 1742. See letter of May 17 of that year.]; and sometimes he would suddenly look one way or the other, not knowing whether he should not see her. Then you must remember how Mr. De Renty says to his friends: 'To die is not lost: our union will henceforth be more complete than it can be here.' And I heard my mother say that she was often 'as sensitive to the presence of my grandfather's spirit as she might have been if she had seen him before his face.'

Then Mr. Hawes left: I hope in peace! Let's be prepared too! - Yes, I am, my dear sister,

Your affectionate brother.

 

A continual care to reclaim every image of God in which you were created

 

And I am convinced that whatever knowledge you acquire, you will strive to apply it to the noblest purposes. O that this may be your continual care, to grow in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to recover all that image of God in which you were created!

 

To Elizabeth Morgan

LONDON, February 20, 1780.

MY DEAR MISS MORGAN, "As I do not know when you have been so present in my thoughts as for a day or two, I was pleasantly surprised last night to open a letter and see your name. [See letters of January 7, 1779 and March 13, 1781.] It is on Monday, the 28th, that I intend, God willing, to leave here. One day I hope to spend in Bath; and on Thursday, March zi, to be in Bristol. The next morning, at eleven, if it is convenient for you, I will attend to you. On Monday, March 13, I must leave for Ireland. Before that, since you're ready, maybe I can give you all the help you need to understand this little excerpt. And I am convinced that whatever knowledge you acquire, you will strive to apply it to the noblest purposes. O that this may be your continual care, to grow in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to recover all that image of God in which you were created! If I can in any degree assist you in this, it will be an indescribable pleasure, my dear Miss Helena. Morgan,

With all the affection.

 

Leaflet for French prisoners

 

I want to disperse among the French prisoners fifteen hundred of the pamphlet which I am sending by Mr. Olivers.

 

For William Strahan

ESTRADA DA CIDADE, February 21, 1780.

DEAR LORD, I want to disperse among the French prisoners fifteen hundred of the pamphlet I send by Mr. Olivers. If I plead that it be printed as soon as it is convenient, I also wish you to advise Mr. Olivers on a small matter in which he is engaged. - It is I, dear sir,

His affectionate servant.

 

That you may be part of His holiness

 

Suffering is a gift from God to you! And all are meant for your benefit, so that you may be part of His holiness

 

To Mr. William Strahan.

To Ann Bolton

LONDON, February 26, 1780.

MY DEAR NANCY, "You have forgotten the exhortation that speaks to you as to children, "Do not despise the punishment of the Lord, nor despise yourself when you are rebuked by Him." Something may happen where we cannot say, 'This is the Lord; let Him do what seems good. In all circumstances, can we adopt our Lord's words: 'The cup that My Father has given me, do I not drink?' In your patience, possess your soul. Be aware of all the reasons that are not profitable. Hold on tight, whatever instruments are employed, - Suffering is a gift of God to you! [See letters for January 14 and June 22.] And all are meant for your benefit, so that you may be part of His holiness.

I believe the volatile tincture of guaiac would relieve the pain in your face. I don't remember if I've mentioned this before or not. Put a teaspoon in a piece of sugar and take this in a glass of clear water four times a day. But it would also be good to soak your feet in warm water for a few minutes before going to sleep.

Next Monday I must leave for Bristol. On Monday, a fortnight, March 13, I hope to be in Stroud. If it's possible, let me see you there.

No one will be more welcome to, dear Nancy,

With all the affection.

 

The good fruit of this already appears in his deliverance from that troubled man

 

The good fruit of this already appears in his deliverance from that troubled man. If your opponents can't provoke you to return evil for evil, they can't do you harm. With patience you possess the soul, and all these things will work together for good

 

For Samuel Bradburn

LONDON, February 26, 1780.

DEAR SAMMY, "I think you have reason to be extremely grateful for an honest and sensible colleague." [John Bredin was his colleague in Cork. See letter of November 9, 1779 to him.] The good fruit of this already appears in his deliverance from that troubled man. If your opponents can't provoke you to return evil for evil, they can't do you harm. With patience you possess the soul, and all these things will work together for good.

I hope to be in Dublin about the end of March, [He did not arrive there until April 13, 1783.] and probably in Cork before the middle of May. If you're in Bristol around (which I'm not too opposed to), we need to rent accommodation near the room. [See letter of April 2.] Peace be with your spirits! - I am, with affection for Betsy, dear Sammy,

Your affectionate friend and brother.

 

Many people would meet a female leader who would not meet a man

 

I would like Mr. Mather to immediately appoint an all-female class in Halifax. Many people would meet a female leader, who would not meet a man

 

For Ms. Crosby

BRISTOL, March 3, 1780.

MY DEAR SISTER, - You have done well to stay with Mrs. Swaine in her suffering, and certainly cannot leave her until she returns to her father. I would like Mr. Mather to immediately appoint an all-female class in Halifax. Many people would meet a female leader, who would not meet a man.

Here and in London, I visited the Classes personally, and I don't know if I've ever given a ticket to the band from someone who doesn't follow the rules of the band. That in relation to Raffles in particular, I would like Mr. Mather to do exactly what I do here.

Sister Briscoe is a good leader, whether for a band or a class. On Monday evening I must leave here for Ireland. Peace be with all your spirits! - Yes, I am, dear Sally,

Your affectionate brother.

 

You must think and let think

 

Part of what you say I believe, part I don't. But I know you clearly believe that. Still, you must think and let think. I must act by my own conscience, not yours. And I really am aware. And I strive to have a conscience void of offense against God and man

 

For Thomas Wride

BRISTOL, March 9, 1780.

DEAR TOMMY, "I don't take anything badly if it's with good intentions. Therefore, I do not take anything wrong in your letter, for I am fully convinced that you have good intentions even when you misjudge. Part of what you say I believe, part I don't. But I know you clearly believe that. Still, you must think and let think. I must act by my own conscience, not yours. And I really am aware. And I strive to have a conscience void of offense against God and man. - I am

Your affectionate brother.

 

If you do not live in known sin, admit it into Society

 

You must be completely satisfied that the person in Neath, of whom you speak, does not live in known sin. If it is, it can safely readmit him to the Society

 

To William Church

BRISTOL, March 12, 1780. DEAR BILLY, - You must be completely satisfied that the person in Neath, of whom you speak, does not live in known sin. If he is, he can safely readmit him to the Society.

I'll probably cross from Liverpool to Dublin later this month. [See letter of February 26.] You can submit the next quarter plan to Bristol. - Yes, I am, dear Billy,

With affection.

 

If we are zealous and active, our Societies will increase

 

If we are zealous and active, our Societies will increase; otherwise, they will rot

 

 

For William Sagar

BRISTOL, March 12, 1780.

MY DEAR BROTHER, -Tomorrow morning I must leave here. I hope to be in Manchester on Good Friday, in Bolton on Easter Eve, in Warrington on Easter Day, in Liverpool on Easter Monday. If I go to Ireland (which I am not entirely determined about), then I will set sail as soon as possible. If I don't, I will have time to visit our friends in Colne, which would give me special satisfaction.

If we are zealous and active, our Societies will increase; otherwise, they will rot. - I'm

Your affectionate brother.[1]

 

When a preacher travels without his wife, he is exposed to numerous temptations

 

When a preacher travels without his wife, he is exposed to numerous temptations. And you can't travel with your wife until she's so transformed as to adorn the gospel. It seems, therefore, that all you can do these days is act as a local preacher.

 

For Thomas Wride

BRISTOL, September 10, 1780.

MY DEAR BROTHER,-- When a preacher travels without his wife, he is exposed to innumerable temptations. And you can't travel with your wife until she's so transformed as to adorn the gospel. It seems, therefore, that all you can do these days is act as a local preacher.

If at any time you have reason to believe that the goods offered to you have been stolen, you cannot buy them with a clear conscience. When you have no special reason to think so, you can proceed without scruples.--I am

Your affectionate brother. [2]

 

 

 



[1] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1780a/

[2] https://wesley.nnu.edu/john-wesley/the-letters-of-john-wesley/wesleys-letters-1780b/

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